# Major bugs in SDMB re-skin fixed. What do you think?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663>\
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**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663 "2017-09-06T18:32:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/161 "2017-09-08T06:34:23Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> It doesn’t help that the forum menu is spread out vertically by the five lines required to display “Today at 06:36 by fairlylong postername”. It brings to mind the lack of forethought on those forms you fill at the doctors office, giving the same line length for “Age” and “Previous illnesses”.

Disregard this. All I have to do is raise the font, and the Poster column disappears completely.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/162 "2017-09-08T06:48:11Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> When I saw the announcement that they were working on upgrading the site for mobile users, I thought “hey, that’s cool; maybe I’ll check it out at some point”–I didn’t realize that I’d have no choice in that matter if I wanted to keep reading it.

This theme is adaptive (or is supposed to be.) So it’s serving different pages depending on the device you view it from. That is probably why so many issues being reported by some posters aren’t always seen by all other posters. If you’re viewing it from a desktop you are seeing what it considers to be the desktop version.

If we could have a choice of themes with the two we currently have those choices wouldn’t be ‘Mobile’ or ‘Desktop’ but “Classic SDMB” and “New SDMB” or something like that.

Enabling the option to allow posters to choose a theme and making both the old and new themes available is the simplest and most effective thing TPTB could do while they continue to grapple with this not nearly ready for prime time new theme.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/163 "2017-09-08T06:56:00Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> If you’re viewing it from a desktop you are seeing what it considers to be the desktop version.

Regardless of whether or not this is concerned to be the desktop version, “mobile site” is a very apt description.

My second thought (after verifying that I hadn’t zoomed in) was that server glitched and served me the mobile version by mistake–which isn’t the case. There is no reason for certain elements (such as the sizing and spacing) to exist on a desktop site.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/164 "2017-09-08T07:22:05Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Regardless of whether or not this is concerned to be the desktop version, “mobile site” is a very apt description.
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> My second thought (after verifying that I hadn’t zoomed in) was that server glitched and served me the mobile version by mistake–which isn’t the case. There is no reason for certain elements (such as the sizing and spacing) to exist on a desktop site.

Yeah, the description isn’t important. I was just using those as examples to illustrate the point that we’re not having a mobile version forced on us despite using desktops, which is what it sounded like you were saying. We’re just having a crappy version forced on us whatever the device. They can call them old and new, classic and mobile, or whatever. As long as we can go back to the old one while they rethink the implementation of the new one.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/165 "2017-09-08T07:27:58Z")

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No dates on posts - no way to tell if a thread is a zombie.

I mean, I was never much good at noticing that anyway, but now I have an excuse.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/166 "2017-09-08T07:42:29Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> I was just using those as examples to illustrate the point that we’re not having a mobile version forced on us despite using desktops, which is what it sounded like you were saying.

But that’s my point: this is a mobile version.

The only reason for the sizing and spacing is that it’s optimized to be viewed on a tablet or phone.

Just because there may be a “more” mobile version being served to mobile users doesn’t change the fact that I’m on my laptop looking at a site that was clearly designed for mobile users.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/167 "2017-09-08T11:54:26Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> No dates on posts - no way to tell if a thread is a zombie.
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> I mean, I was never much good at noticing that anyway, but now I have an excuse.

? There are dates on posts on my screen. (Desktop, Windows 10, Firefox)

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/168 "2017-09-08T15:18:30Z")

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IMHO the new format is a lot better on mobile devices and marginally worse on a computer. OTOH, I rarely use it on mobile devices, so for me it’s probably a wash.

One thing I particularly dislike is the italicizing of quotes. Many people use selective italicizing to emphasize certain parts of their posts and thus make their meaning clearer, and this is lost when being quoted.

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**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/169 "2017-09-08T15:25:09Z")

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Im on a Chromebook used as a desktop…I would prefer the old look if I had a choice, but if the blue bars were gone, I could live with that.

I not much of a coder, (less than zerro) even at the Tampermonkey level, hopefully there will be a simple dashboard type fix. Still love the SD though.😃

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/170 "2017-09-08T15:39:44Z")

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I’m re-reading some of my old posts on this new format and I think the new format has improved them quite a bit.

Previously my posts were rambling sequences of thoughts, illogical, devoid of any central concept, filled with grammar, spelling and formatting problems and frequently made no sense at all.

With the new format they are coherent, insightful, clever, funny, succinct and generally just solid posts.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/171 "2017-09-08T15:55:14Z")

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Interestingly, it’s doing the exact opposite to my old posts.

In fact, if anyone sees anything at all that they don’t like in any of my old posts, I can assure you that it’s completely the fault of the new format.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/172 "2017-09-08T16:16:36Z")

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What are the settings like in your profile?

I set mine to “80% good posts” (didn’t want to overdo it)

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/173 "2017-09-08T16:20:22Z")

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Now you tell me.

I didn’t change that setting at all. The default must be very low … ☹

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/174 "2017-09-08T16:27:51Z")

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Is this where we post bugs/issues? Because, and I apologize if this has been covers, but there used to be a link in quotes that would let you jump to the quoted post - no more, at least for me ☹

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/175 "2017-09-08T16:32:00Z")

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It’s still there but it’s a faint gray - could be you’re missing it.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/176 "2017-09-08T16:32:51Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> No dates on posts - no way to tell if a thread is a zombie.
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> I mean, I was never much good at noticing that anyway, but now I have an excuse.

There are no dates for subscribed threads in my control panel on my Android phone, but everything else is dated including my desktop, using Firefox.

Is this what you’re referring to?

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/177 "2017-09-08T16:52:17Z")

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There are a few changes I noticed but none of them are any hindrance to me, but my eyes are getting old so I surf on my big monitors.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/178 "2017-09-08T16:59:22Z")

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I’m already used to the new format. The only thing I find irritating is the banners every few threads. Kinda distracting, in that it makes me think I’ve reached the end of a thread. But I’m sure that given a few weeks I’ll have learned to ignore that irritant.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/179 "2017-09-08T17:10:35Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> It’s still there but it’s a faint gray - could be you’re missing it.

AH, you’re right! God Damn that’s hard to see.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-bugs-in-sdmb-re-skin-fixed-what-do-you-think/795663/180 "2017-09-08T18:18:15Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> It’s still there but it’s a faint gray - could be you’re missing it.

Which brings me to my 7th complaint: Some of the icons (especially the ‘Subscribed’ indicater) have become super-faint and hard-to-see.

I confess: I _can_ see the faint icons when I squint, and my total lost time due to this problem may be only ten seconds per day, or even less.  
But it is annoying and … _ **Why?** _ Was someone begging for fainter hard-to-see icons?

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