# Major League Baseball: The 2010 Playoffs **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [October 6, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197 "2010-10-06T00:24:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/61 "2010-10-08T13:47:13Z")
[quote=“astorian, post:58, topic:556197”] > [@RickJay](#): > > “Disgraceful”? How? Is it “disgraceful” if people don’t come out to the theaters to see a movie you like? Is it “disgraceful” if a good restaurant never finds enough patrons to stay in business? Don’t assume I was saying the fans (or, more precisely, the people who didn’t go) were the ones I held in disgrace. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/62 "2010-10-08T14:51:17Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > > [@What\_Exit](#): > > > > It might be house money, but as I hate Pavanno the way so many hate the Yanks, I would love to see him pounded from the game in the first inning. However, I expect he will probably pitch a good 7 inning game. > > I know it’s a common belief that Pavano robbed ol’ George by taking $millions and then essentially calling out sick for a couple years. But I really never saw any evidence that any of it was intentional. Some people just have very low pain thresholds and can only perform if everything is perfect. > > That said, I hope the Yankees remember that he did cost them championship ring(s), which can never be replaced. They must do all in their power to make sure that _he_ doesn’t ever get one. It’s hard to tell what really happened. Certainly he didn’t have Tommy John surgery in 2007 just because he didn’t feel like pitching. But there’s a sense that he didn’t make much of an effort to get back to the team when he had minor injuries. To me, it’s telling that it’s not just the fans who felt that way - the players and Joe Torre did, too. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/63 "2010-10-08T15:07:56Z")
Buster Posey was out at second. Tim Lincecum was ridiculous. And please stop talking about the Braves defense. You don’t have to rub it in. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/64 "2010-10-08T15:18:16Z")
Posey wasn’t just out, but pretty clearly out. You could see when it happened in real time that he was out. Lincecum was very ridiculous. And I hate to be Mr. Stats, but Atlanta’s defense isn’t awful. Yes, they were third in the league in errors, but they were also third in the league in turning double plays despite not giving up very many baserunners, which is really valuable and which effectively cancels the errors out. Their defensive efficiency was dead average. By any analytical measure they’re an OK defensive team. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/65 "2010-10-08T16:29:42Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > And I hate to be Mr. Stats, but Atlanta’s defense isn’t awful. Yes, they were third in the league in errors, but they were also third in the league in **turning double plays** despite not giving up very many baserunners, which is really valuable and which effectively cancels the errors out. Their defensive efficiency was dead average. By any analytical measure they’re an OK defensive team. How many of those were induced by DLowe? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/66 "2010-10-08T16:53:16Z")
What’s especially ridiculous is how many K’s Lincecum got on pitches outside the strike zone (I really like TBS’s pitch tracker, btw). I thought the Giants inability to get Posey home from 3B with nobody out would bite them in the ass. I was wrong. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/67 "2010-10-08T17:52:55Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I hate to be Mr. Stats, but Atlanta’s defense isn’t awful. Yes, they were third in the league in errors, but they were also third in the league in turning double plays despite not giving up very many baserunners, which is really valuable and which effectively cancels the errors out. Their defensive efficiency was dead average. By any analytical measure they’re an OK defensive team. I’m fine with stats, particularly when they’re good ones. Errors aren’t a good defensive stat. But I sure am missing Martin Prado, for example. The Braves _right now_ are a worse defensive team than they were earlier in the year. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/68 "2010-10-08T18:11:46Z")
Twins fans, please chime in. Does Target Field have grass or turf? I had always assumed it was grass, but I thought one of the announcers referred to it as artificial turf in the pregame for game 1. It’s really hard to tell, the mowing patterns suggest grass but I suppose those could be replicated on turf with a roller, I didn’t see any blades of grass flying nor did I see the tell-tell black puffs underfoot like you see with FieldTurf. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/69 "2010-10-08T18:16:49Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > > [@RickJay](#): > > > > I hate to be Mr. Stats, but Atlanta’s defense isn’t awful. Yes, they were third in the league in errors, but they were also third in the league in turning double plays despite not giving up very many baserunners, which is really valuable and which effectively cancels the errors out. Their defensive efficiency was dead average. By any analytical measure they’re an OK defensive team. > > I’m fine with stats, particularly when they’re good ones. Errors aren’t a good defensive stat. > > But I sure am missing Martin Prado, for example. The Braves _right now_ are a worse defensive team than they were earlier in the year. Don’t forget Chipper.. I know he’s at the end of his line.. but Infante booted that ball that Chipper probably would have gotten.. The Bravos are throwing out a B team right now.. No Chip. no Prado.. a worn out Infante.. and I’m still waiting for Derek Lee to show up.. Somebody.. come on.. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/70 "2010-10-08T18:18:49Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > How about ol’ Kerry Wood? The only thing worse to my sox losing to the twinkies is knowing how they’ll crap the bed against the Yankees.. and then to add to my injury.. Kerry Wood.. YOU SOB.. if you had worked WORKED.. you’d be adding to a legend with the Cubbies.. What more could the North Siders have done for you.. Five dollar arm.. twenty five cent head.. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/71 "2010-10-08T18:34:40Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Twins fans, please chime in. Does Target Field have grass or turf? I had always assumed it was grass, but I thought one of the announcers referred to it as artificial turf in the pregame for game 1. It’s really hard to tell, the mowing patterns suggest grass but I suppose those could be replicated on turf with a roller, I didn’t see any blades of grass flying nor did I see the tell-tell black puffs underfoot like you see with FieldTurf. It’s grass. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/72 "2010-10-08T18:41:41Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > And I hate to be Mr. Stats, but Atlanta’s defense isn’t awful. Yes, they were third in the league in errors, but they were also third in the league in turning double plays despite not giving up very many baserunners, which is really valuable and which effectively cancels the errors out. Their defensive efficiency was dead average. By any analytical measure they’re an OK defensive team. Any? According to [fangraphs.com](http://fangraphs.com), Atlanta was 26th out of 30 MLB teams in UZR/150. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/73 "2010-10-09T02:10:03Z")
Man. Ugly game. Phillies had some bad playing early in the game. Shocking to see Utley make two errors in on inning! And, Oswalt got a few good pitches in there, but he really didn’t have his best stuff. When he left the game things seemed to clear up. No more errors. Better pitching. And Arroyo was awesome for the first few inning. But, then things just started to fall apart. There were a lot of errors. But, man, more surprisingly, three hit batsmen?! Crazy! Just watched that Cox ejection play at first in the Giants game. He really looked safe. But, it’s the kind of bang bang quick play that can be forgiven. It just sucks that it is the same ump as last night’s (what looked to me like) blown call on the stolen base. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/74 "2010-10-09T02:10:57Z")
Posey was definitely out last night, and I’m annoyed that that was how the Giants scored their only run. And then Bobby Cox gets ejected arguing a perfectly accurate call tonight? I am scratching my head over his decision-making. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/75 "2010-10-09T05:19:18Z")
The Giants lead the world in hitting into double plays…and I think Buster Posey’s, with the winning run on 3B, may have cost them the series. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/76 "2010-10-09T12:19:40Z")
**sigh** Sunday’s _got_ to be a better day! ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/77 "2010-10-10T01:12:36Z")
Rangers lose their first game to the Rays due to our pitchers falling apart and us not hitting enough. Tomorrow Tommy Hunter pitches. Hopefully that’ll be a better choice and the end to this series. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/78 "2010-10-10T03:09:36Z")
Minnesota Twits TTFN gone. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/79 "2010-10-10T09:34:05Z")
The Twinkies were terrible. TERRIBLE! What, they ended up being 1-13 with runners in scoring position?? They had a better record, plenty of hits, runs during the season and they’re afraid of pinstripes? Shit, The Twins wear the pinstripes too. Yankees (sad to say it) played solid baseball, great defense, good hitting. At least I was right about Kerry Wood STILL sucking. If I were Girardi, I’d keep him off the roster. Anyway, Phils win in Cincy tomorrow!! (Sorry Reds!) ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197/80 "2010-10-10T12:24:52Z")
I hope the Rays-Rangers goes the full five now. With maybe a 16-inning Game 5 thrown in for fun… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-league-baseball-the-2010-playoffs/556197.md?page=5)