# Major Storm LUCIFER to Hit Southern California **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 17, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059 "2017-02-17T15:23:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/21 "2017-02-17T23:01:58Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > And give up my first class seat? And good luck with the drive from John Wayne to any other airport on a rainy rushhour Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/22 "2017-02-17T23:11:04Z")
Interesting that the “is the drought over?” maps showed Santa Barbara as the holdout. This storm almost seems designed to finish off the last bit of drought. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/23 "2017-02-17T23:45:07Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > And give up my first class seat? That depends on whether you’re getting out tonight or not, and whether that matters more than the first class seat… > [@madsircool](#): > > And good luck with the drive from John Wayne to any other airport on a rainy rushhour Friday. And that depends on where he is now versus those other airports. When I frequently flew, I liked first class seats (usually got them too - ah the perks of travelling too much) but I also liked getting home in a timely manner. If hundreds of flights are cancelled or delayed, I would have started looking for other options several hours ago, or I would have decided to spend the night and extended my hotel. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/24 "2017-02-17T23:52:36Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > I hope they got the reservoir at Oroville Dam low enough to absorb this. The lake level as of 3:00 this afternoon was down to 858.78’. The lake is considered ‘full’ at 900’, and I believe it topped out last Sunday at about 902’. They have actually reduced outflows today, from 100,000 cfs to about 75,000; the DWR seems to think the lake should be fine through this current set of storms. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/25 "2017-02-18T00:34:49Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > Interesting that the “is the drought over?” maps showed Santa Barbara as the holdout. This storm almost seems designed to finish off the last bit of drought. Doubt it. As of this moment, our reservoir is still only 20% full, although it will make up some ground over the next few days as the runoff continues. But more critically, we have years of groundwater pumping deficit to overcome. Even if all the reservoirs magically fill up tonight, we’ve over pumped for so long that I don’t know what it’s going to take to fill the aquifers back up. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/26 "2017-02-18T00:54:59Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > That depends on whether you’re getting out tonight or not, and whether that matters more than the first class seat… > > And that depends on where he is now versus those other airports. > > When I frequently flew, I liked first class seats (usually got them too - ah the perks of travelling too much) but I also liked getting home in a timely manner. If hundreds of flights are cancelled or delayed, I would have started looking for other options several hours ago, or I would have decided to spend the night and extended my hotel. Of course I agree, but the airline is somewhat optimistic I’ll get out, (3 hours late) I have a nearby hotel I can use as plan B. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/27 "2017-02-18T01:02:33Z")
A whole 2 1/2 inches. Well on July 14, 1987 (it was Bastille day, which stuck in my mind) we had 14" in a 24 hour period including 4 inches in one hour in the middle of the afternoon. When my wife finally struggled home around 9 having had to walk from downtown (4 miles), she found the rest of us listening to the All-Star game on a transistor radio, not having power. Our basement flooded for the first and only time. Great fun. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/28 "2017-02-18T01:04:56Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > Doubt it. As of this moment, our reservoir is still only 20% full, although it will make up some ground over the next few days as the runoff continues. But more critically, we have years of groundwater pumping deficit to overcome. Even if all the reservoirs magically fill up tonight, we’ve over pumped for so long that I don’t know what it’s going to take to fill the aquifers back up. Completely agree. Also soil subsidence due to over pumping has also limited the amount the ground can absorb, in the central and salinas valley. Lets hope this goes till April, and Cachuma is spilling!!!😃 We got 4.8 down in the flats near Miramar “Lake” (mudhole)🆒 ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/29 "2017-02-18T01:08:34Z")
We had the largest and oldest redwood in burbank in my yard that sadly had to be cut down due to the drought this summer. If only it coulda held out til now ☹ ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/30 "2017-02-18T01:12:17Z")
And now just got a flash flood warning alert on my phone. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/31 "2017-02-18T01:20:27Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > And now just got a flash flood warning alert on my phone. Me too. I assume I’m safe in the airport bar. At least from flooding. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/32 "2017-02-18T01:29:49Z")
You’ll be safe as long as they have a steady supply of $12 beers. ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/33 "2017-02-18T01:34:34Z")
> [@mind\_the\_gap](#): > > This is picnic weather in Florida.😉 It does this every day at 5:30 in the summer in Florida 2 or 3 feet and yea, we are hating it. That said, it seems that 1 inch of rain in Cali equals torrential mudslides and houses falling off hills? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/34 "2017-02-18T01:38:26Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > It does this every day at 5:30 in the summer in Florida > > 2 or 3 feet and yea, we are hating it. > > That said, it seems that 1 inch of rain in Cali equals torrential mudslides and houses falling off hills? Not just houses, expensive celebrity houses, so it becomes big “news that matters. Live Megadoppler abc7000 HD team coverage” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/35 "2017-02-18T02:35:33Z")
People other than the Weather Channel do occasionally name temperate zone storms. Around here, they _still_ talk about the [Columbus Day Storm of 1962](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day_Storm_of_1962). I wasn’t around here for that, but I do remember the Friday the 13th Storm of 1981. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/36 "2017-02-18T03:09:54Z")
In defense of Cali…especially where the mountains hit the sea…7 inches up on the 2500 ft mountains today (and 5 inches in the flats!!!)…that stuff comes running on down, it gets pretty nutso. Boulders, mud etc…Ocean is out of control today as well, ugly cement looking waves, crossed up, giant swells…boats washed up…:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/37 "2017-02-18T06:33:11Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I like the rain. Its pitter patter patterns playing on the roof is calming. Where’s the incessant roar and the featureless white void outside the windows of the blacked-out and subsiding chicken shack you’re sheltering in? That’s a _real_ rainstorm. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/38 "2017-02-18T06:45:06Z")
[The AP is reporting 2 dead, a sinkhole opened and Victorville flooding had cars being washed down the street.](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CALIFORNIA_STORMS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-02-18-00-37-36) ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/39 "2017-02-18T15:19:27Z")
Good morning from Denver airport as I play the standby game to head home to Orange County. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/40 "2017-02-18T16:18:01Z")
Well, I feel for you my SoCal friends, but we’ve been battered to death here in NorCal with so much rain that all the main arteries “over the hill” (that is, getting from San Jose to Santa Cruz) are either closed, or limited to fewer than normal lanes. It’s hell for the folks who live on the coast, but work in the valley. There’s no telling when the main road (Highway 17) is going to be back and fully open. And 2 more storms are coming in this week. Oroville damn, which many folks have heard about I’m sure, is not really in the Bay Area, but north and east of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059.md?page=3)