# Major Storm LUCIFER to Hit Southern California

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 17, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059 "2017-02-17T15:23:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/62 "2017-02-21T02:07:23Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I like the rain. Its pitter patter patterns playing on the roof is calming.

What a pity.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/63 "2017-02-21T02:30:52Z")

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We still have a ways to go before it gets as bad as the [Great Flood of 1862](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862).

> [@](#):
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> The entire Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys were inundated. An area about 300 miles (480 km) long, averaging 20 miles (32 km) in width,[15] and covering 5,000 to 6,000 square miles (13,000 to 16,000 km2) was under water. The water flooding the Central Valley reached depths up to 30 feet (9.1 m), completely submerging telegraph poles that had just been installed between San Francisco and New York. Transportation, mail, and communications across the state were disrupted for a month. Water covered portions of the valley from December 1861, through the spring, and into the summer of 1862.

(but who knows…it ain’t over yet)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/64 "2017-02-21T02:59:43Z")

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Sacramento used to flood so often, they finally rebuilt downtown Sacramento (now called Old Sacramento) two stories above ground level. You can still walk the tunnels under the streets to see the old street level. Though maybe not right now.

It’s raining so hard, the rain is dripping through the vent in the ceiling of my bathroom.

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**Author:** ![RadioWave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RadioWave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadioWave)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/65 "2017-02-21T17:46:21Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> So can we hear back from the OP and others? Did you survive the reckoning?

Sadly I did not.

Actually, the storm hit mostly north of us and we saw little more than half an inch of rain and a few trees were knocked over. Far more damage was done in Northern California than the south. I used to bike the Coyote Creek trail (San Jose) all the time and it barely rated a trickle. Sad that they built up that whole area if the dam really isn’t stable.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/66 "2017-02-21T19:41:32Z")

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Lake Berryessa brim full for first time since May 2006 ([cite](https://localwiki.org/davis/Morning_Glory_Spillway)).

Water level full up to the “Glory Hole” ([Photos](http://lakeberryessanews.com/_Media/glory-hole-smooth-combo.jpeg)).

([What it’s looked like](https://localwiki.org/davis/Morning_Glory_Spillway/_files/dry.jpg/_info/) for a long long time, for comparison.)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/67 "2017-02-21T21:11:33Z")

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Here is a picture of Anderson Dam spilling over the top. It’s pretty impressive. I understand there’s been flooding downstream and some water rescues. Highway 101 was closed at one point. I don’t know if it still is.

[Picture from SF Gate](http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Anderson-Reservoir-Dam-spilling-waterfall-spillway-10947314.php#photo-12418709)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/68 "2017-02-21T21:20:28Z")

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I read an article this morning about nine reservoirs that drain into Lake Oroville, and since only three of them are managed by the state Department of Water Resources, they aren’t really paying attention to them. They’re all reaching maximum load and will have to start draining downstream and into Lake Oroville, for the Dam to have to contend with.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/69 "2017-02-22T01:15:23Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Here is a picture of Anderson Dam spilling over the top. It’s pretty impressive. I understand there’s been flooding downstream and some water rescues. Highway 101 was closed at one point. I don’t know if it still is.
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> [Picture from SF Gate](http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Anderson-Reservoir-Dam-spilling-waterfall-spillway-10947314.php#photo-12418709)

Still is. Fortunately the south bound section is open, which is the major commute direction. Coyote Creek crested at leasts a foot higher than any recorded record in the past. Water was chest high in some residential areas. At least 2 days before the water recedes.

What a disaster!!

And it looks like more rain on Sat - Tues.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/70 "2017-02-22T02:49:05Z")

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I’m glad I don’t have a trip up the coast on Hwy 1 planned for this summer. [The Pfeifer Canyon Bridge has moved seven inches and is unrepairable.](http://www.ksbw.com/article/pfeiffer-canyon-bridge-in-big-sur-is-beyond-repair/8962606)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/71 "2017-02-22T03:14:31Z")

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That’s not good.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/72 "2017-02-22T04:48:40Z")

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I-80 between Sacramento and Reno is closed due to snow. Highway 50 between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe is closed because the road is crumbling. You can’t get there from here.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/73 "2017-02-22T18:02:22Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> That’s not good.

Update… [Highway 1: Pfeiffer Canyon Bridge condemned](http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/22/highway-1-pfeiffer-canyon-bridge-condemned/)

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> Susana Cruz, a spokeswoman for Caltrans, said she doesn’t know the time frame for a new bridge to be built though it would likely be expedited.
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> “Bridges can take up to a year (to complete),” she said.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/major-storm-lucifer-to-hit-southern-california/780059/74 "2017-02-22T18:37:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “Bridges can take up to a year (to complete),”

Not good news for travelers or businesses on that stretch of the coast.

It took them 4 years to complete the [Pitkins Curve bridge and rock shed](http://www.discover-central-california.com/rain-rocks-rock-shed.html) further south on Highway 1.

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