# Make that 28,999, Zenster.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 26, 2003, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061 "2003-07-26T08:18:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/81 "2003-07-27T23:23:18Z")

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I didn’t know you could cook boiled water.

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/82 "2003-07-27T23:35:52Z")

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White Queso

1.5 # sharp white cheddar  
.5 # Velveeta, in chunks  
1/2 cup beer or heavy cream  
1 small white onion  
2 tomatoes  
3 jalapenos

Saute chopped vegetables in a little oil. Grate cheddar. Place cheddar and Velveeta in double boiler. Melt, add beer or cream and stir vigorously until smooth. Stir in vegetables.

Salud.

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**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/83 "2003-07-27T23:36:18Z")

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_Originally posted by kambuckta_

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> It is one thing to acknowledge that not everybody is going to agree with my POV, and quite another to open a thread devoted to telling me that I am a worthless and disliked human being.

Whoa! Almost got me there with the Sword of Righteousness - check your swing, Sosa.

Let’s examine the facts. **Zenster** implied that there where several members who had no issue with him. **Sapphire Bullet** disagreed and started this thread. Others responded since this was the _appropriate place to do so_ versus pissing all over another thread.

Has anyone called him on any **off board** behaviors? No.  
Has anyone called him on his behavior **on the boards**? Damn skippy

So far, the complaints have been about the wordiness of his posts and his pretentious nature - **ON THE BOARDS**. No one has insulted him personally or called his character into question. For all I know, the college of Cardinals has him penciled to be the next Pope - I can only base my judgment on what he presents here.

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**Author:** ![Creaky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@Creaky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creaky)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/84 "2003-07-27T23:44:48Z")

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**Ike** , that was _hilarious_!

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/85 "2003-07-27T23:45:22Z")

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If you dont want the hassle of chopping the veggies, sub 2 cans Rotel, drained well.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/86 "2003-07-27T23:51:02Z")

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**essvee** - Thank you! I’ll add that one to my now-growing pile and give them a whirl. Muchos gracias.

And see **omni-not** , that was my point. 😃

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/87 "2003-07-28T00:14:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kambuckta \*  
> \*\*That’s commendable **chique** , but I wonder how your ego would feel if there were repeated threads titled “Fuck chique…she’s a brainless twit”. Not necessarily because of your opinions, but because of who you are. I know that I’d be absolutely shattered, and that’s how I feel watching such a vitriolic attack on others as well. It’s hurtful and unnecessary. \*\*

I always thought that he _likes_ these threads. And, indeed, there are certain perks.

He gets to be the center of attention. He gets to play the role of wounded victim, causing people who like him but never bothered to say so to rush to his public defense. Being the wounded victim also gives him the moral latitude to lash out at people. And the pile-on can get so over-the-top that he comes off as a sympathetic figure.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/88 "2003-07-28T00:20:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Snooooopy \*  
> \*\*And the pile-on can get so over-the-top… \*\*

Well, you’re right about that, and the pile-on thanks you for your contribution.

Next!

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/89 "2003-07-28T01:21:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by chique \*  
> \*\*And one more thing. When used in an argument, this type of appeal to authority is the lamest logical gaffe EVER. \*\*

Correction: _SECOND_ lamest.

The appeal to invisible authority (“I have _thousands_ of e-mails from people who support me. No, you _can’t_ see them. But they’re real. Nyaah.”) is worse than the appeal to the silent masses (“Thousands of people support me. They’re just not speaking up. They’re very quiet. But they _do_ support. How do I know it? I just _do_.”)

Fenris

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**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/90 "2003-07-28T02:15:05Z")

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All I’m saying is that I hope **Zenster** sees the humor in **Ike** ’s post. I’m one of the folks around here that likes/doesn’t have a problem with **Zen** , and I thought it was pretty damn funny, aside from the snarky bits. And, starting a thread about one or two lame thoughts in the middle of a strange debate is, well, kind of lame, IMHO. That’s all. Oh, and I agree with **Ogre**.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/91 "2003-07-28T02:43:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \*  
> \*\*Well, you’re right about that, and the pile-on thanks you for your contribution.
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> Next! \*\*

The pile-on elected _you_ as its spokesperson? Hee hee hee. I think the pile-on should launch a recall election and choose someone more appropriate. The spokesperson of the pile-on should, you know, be piling on, wouldn’t you agree?

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**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/92 "2003-07-28T02:56:47Z")

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Aaak! No more recall elections. One’s enough…

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/93 "2003-07-28T05:07:07Z")

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but **Zenster** seems to be saying that he estimates 29,000 Dopers who _don’t have a problem with him_. That’s a far cry from “like him” or “take any notice whatsoever of him”. I am making no statements about **Zenster** himself, just noting that he did not say what some are attributing to him.  
Quote reproduced below for your confirming pleasure:

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> _Originally posted by Zenster_  
> It’s quite clear that you have problems with my online persona, there’s some people who do as well. Then again, there’s another 29,000 members (or more) here who do not.

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**Author:** ![Creative\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Creative\_Munster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creative_Munster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/94 "2003-07-28T10:09:59Z")

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All he was saying was that there are some people who follow him around to antagonize him when he posts. I’m not sure if this is true or not. However, I think a lot of you are purposefully misreading this one particular sentence.

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/95 "2003-07-28T10:21:36Z")

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**Mods** - Can we move this thread to the “Ass-kiss Loveathon Forum” ??

Jeez, somebody hit someone…

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/96 "2003-07-28T10:26:24Z")

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I’ll kiss ya **Tarantula**. You sound like YOU need a bit of lovin’ too.

{Smooooooooooooooch}

Feel better now darls??

😃

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/97 "2003-07-28T10:27:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kambuckta \*  
> \*\*I’ll kiss ya **Tarantula**. You sound like YOU need a bit of lovin’ too.
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> {Smooooooooooooooch}
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> Feel better now darls??
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> 😃 \*\*

Aw… you ! Sometimes a kiss is all I need.

cf. my thread on “who wants a fight”. looks like everyone is all quiet for a Monday…

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/98 "2003-07-28T10:34:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarantula \*  
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> cf. my thread on “who wants a fight”. looks like everyone is all quiet for a Monday… \*\*

_ **Saturday** _ night’s alright for a fight, but not Monday.

Heh.

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/99 "2003-07-29T02:55:31Z")

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One other possibility is the silent 29,000 have **Zenster** on ignore.

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**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/make-that-28-999-zenster/191061/100 "2003-07-29T03:37:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by porcupine \*  
> \*\*One other possibility is the silent 29,000 have **Zenster** on ignore. \*\*

That would be really impressive in an odd way.

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