# making america great again **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 24, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585 "2017-08-24T19:17:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NadaHappyCamper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@NadaHappyCamper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NadaHappyCamper)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/1 "2017-08-24T19:17:54Z")
Hi, my question is directed toward our current presidents’ supporters: At what time in our(the U.S.) history do you expect the our president to restore us to, in order to be "great again?"Please expound on your answer. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/2 "2017-08-24T19:39:38Z")
Apparently it’s the 1850s. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/3 "2017-08-25T01:04:13Z")
America has never been “great”, except in the sense that great=big. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/4 "2017-08-25T04:38:14Z")
He meant “Grate”. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/5 "2017-08-25T05:10:57Z")
America is great, and will continue to be great, despite current attempts by incompetents. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/6 "2017-08-25T11:17:07Z")
As soon as President Trump was elected, America became [del]ridiculous[/del] great. Trump has carried out his campaign promises: - Mexico will pay for the Wall - Obamacare has been completely repealed - Hillary has been arrested :smack: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/7 "2017-08-25T13:46:06Z")
“America Great Again” cause me to think of the position of the US at the end of the Second World War. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/8 "2017-08-25T13:53:15Z")
> [@glee](#): > > As soon as President Trump was elected, America became [del]ridiculous[/del] great. > > Trump has carried out his campaign promises: > > - Mexico will pay for the Wall > - Obamacare has been completely repealed > - Hillary has been arrested > > :smack: Isis has been defeated. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/9 "2017-08-25T14:51:15Z")
> [@glee](#): > > As soon as President Trump was elected, America became [del]ridiculous[/del] great. > > Trump has carried out his campaign promises: > > - Mexico will pay for the Wall > - Obamacare has been completely repealed > - Hillary has been arrested > > :smack: - gang activity and murder in the streets stopped on day one - the “swamp” has been drained (and filled with vicious predators) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/10 "2017-08-25T15:06:23Z")
I’m going to guess that none of the above answers are from “our current presidents’ supporters” [sic]. Nor, indeed, is this one. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/11 "2017-08-25T15:18:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m going to guess that none of the above answers are from “our current presidents’ supporters” [sic]. > > Nor, indeed, is this one. In that spirit, I would say the best time to restore us to was November 7th 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/12 "2017-08-25T17:11:46Z")
> [@NadaHappyCamper](#): > > Hi, my question is directed toward our current presidents’ supporters: Why are you asking here, then? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/13 "2017-08-25T17:29:02Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > “America Great Again” cause me to think of the position of the US at the end of the Second World War. An isolationist president continually poking and prodding other world leaders when they don’t offer him enough praise will not restore America’s global “greatness” (or at least leadership) to the levels of the post-WWII Cold War era. But he certainly would like to return domestic policy to that era. Too bad if you are not a white man. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/14 "2017-08-25T17:42:59Z")
There’s sort of a two-pronged answer to the OP’s question. One comes from Alexis de Tocqueville, and his famous observation-- “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.” Today, American has, in large part, ceased to be good. (Not that it ever was, completely, but there was much more reverence for the things of God in the past.) We have many people who deny that Christianity played any role in the founding of the nation–even though most of the Founders were religious people in some form or another. Even Benjamin Franklin proposed prayer during the Constitutional Convention. There would be howls of outrage and loud cries of “Separation of church and state!” if such a thing happened today. We have many people who celebrate and promote sexual perversion in the name of “equality.” We have many people who are actively trying to tear down traditional standards of morality and decorum in the name of “progress”–witness all the high school girls who have made the news for fighting against dress codes. A school just this week made the news for not letting a boy who had long hair attend school–and many people are outraged over that, when they should be outraged at his parents. Going along with that, many people today think of the 1950s as being the last period when America was “good.” Now certainly, there were many problems; racism was very widespread, even among people who (falsely) claimed to be Christians. But there were standards of decorum, and standards of at least outward morality, that have been almost totally abandoned in the last 40 years. Premarital sex was still considered shameful, instead of being celebrated in the name of “love.” Most people dressed reasonably modestly back then, instead of thinking that it would be ok to go half naked in public. Women wore skirts and dresses, instead of cross-dressing. Divorce was scandalous. Most people went to church, instead of treating Sunday as merely another day of the week. Even though many people were not actually Christians, there was a degree of religious feeling and religious knowledge that is totally lacking today. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/15 "2017-08-25T17:55:40Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > An isolationist president continually poking and prodding other world leaders when they don’t offer him enough praise will not restore America’s global “greatness” (or at least leadership) to the levels of the post-WWII Cold War era. I wonder how much of the USA being seen as great after the war had to do with the Marshall Plan, paying for Europe to be rebuilt. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/16 "2017-08-25T18:25:33Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > We have many people who deny that Christianity played any role in the founding of the nation–even though most of the Founders were religious people in some form or another. You would do well to learn the difference between Christianity and religion in some form or another. They are not the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/17 "2017-08-25T20:46:30Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > … > Most people dressed reasonably modestly back then, instead of thinking that it would be ok to go half naked in public. Women wore skirts and dresses, instead of cross-dressing. Divorce was scandalous. Most people went to church, instead of treating Sunday as merely another day of the week. Even though many people were not actually Christians, there was a degree of religious feeling and religious knowledge that is totally lacking today. So, burqas or at least bonnets for all the women and plenty of religious fervor for the men and soon America will be truly Great. Is that your best idea? Really? To emulate the less educated regions of Afghanistan? Color me appalled. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/18 "2017-08-25T20:50:27Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > A school just this week made the news for not letting a boy who had long hair attend school–and many people are outraged over that, when they should be outraged at his parents. Are you saying long hair on males is sinful? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/19 "2017-08-25T21:02:21Z")
He’s glad to be an Okie from Muskogee. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/making-america-great-again/794585/20 "2017-08-25T21:05:06Z")
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