# Male surplus in USA, real reason Trump won **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406 "2016-11-19T05:33:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/21 "2016-11-19T14:02:16Z")
Just think about it. If those last 100,000 or so voters who voted for Trump in the swing states late on election day had stayed home and not voted, Trump would have lost. We need to track each one of those folks down and LOCK THEM UP!! It’s all their fault. They are the reason Trump won. Oh, wait a minute. Maybe it was the first 100,000 people who voted for Trump in those states. Yeah, that’s right. If they had just stayed home, then it would’t have mattered if those late people voted for him. It’s the early 100,000 voters in the swing states that are to blame!! ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/22 "2016-11-19T14:14:03Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The only unassailable part of your theory— that the alt-right is populated mainly by resentful unfuckable neckbeards— isn’t exactly breaking news. Really. I haven’t heard about that “surplus of single straight men.” Mostly, single women complain “All the good ones are taken” or “All the good ones are gay.” And a “good one” needn’t be Very Rich & Very Handsome. Has he moved out of Mom’s basement? Does he use good grooming & dress OK? Does he have a brain, a good heart & a sense of humor? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/23 "2016-11-19T14:26:23Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Has he moved out of Mom’s basement? Does he use good grooming & dress OK? Does he have a brain, a good heart & a sense of humor? Is this one of those tests where you have to get them all right, or does 4 out of 6 get you a passing grade? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/24 "2016-11-19T15:57:12Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > There’s way more men in America (besides senior citizen population) & the electoral college allowed this to be highlighted. Trump won because of men. On what planet did this happen? ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/25 "2016-11-19T16:59:53Z")
Idiot surplus, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/26 "2016-11-19T17:30:41Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Has he moved out of Mom’s basement? Does he use good grooming & dress OK? Does he have a brain, a good heart & a sense of humor? Typical gold-digging demands! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/27 "2016-11-19T18:09:13Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The only unassailable part of your theory— that the alt-right is populated mainly by resentful unfuckable neckbeards— isn’t exactly breaking news. I’m barely fuckable so they won’t let me in the club. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/28 "2016-11-19T18:10:09Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > There’s way more men in America See, right there is where you went off the track. There are more women than men in the United States. If you’re going to base an entire theory around a single fact, you should make sure you get that one fact right. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/29 "2016-11-19T18:11:53Z")
(Checking join date) Is it November, 2016 already? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/30 "2016-11-19T18:12:31Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The only unassailable part of your theory— that the alt-right is populated mainly by resentful unfuckable neckbeards— isn’t exactly breaking news. Personally, I am a resentful unfuckable neckbeard. But I still have standards so I refuse to debase myself by joining the alt-right. ---
**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/31 "2016-11-19T18:16:36Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > See, right there is where you went off the track. There are more women than men in the United States. > > If you’re going to base an entire theory around a single fact, you should make sure you get that one fact right. If more men are born 107:100, that seems impossible. Then factor in illegal immigration. Not sure if the census counts them or not, some sources say yes, others say no. The census claims they’re counted (probably via estimation), but how many illegals are willingly going to meet with the census enumerator, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/32 "2016-11-19T18:32:04Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’m barely fuckable so they won’t let me in the club. Surely your resentful quotient FAR outweighs your tiny amount of fuckability in their formula? Or do you have insurmountable bare patches in your neckbeard? ☹ If you can’t join their club, I say you poach their membership by hosting a nearby board game night until all the fun ones have migrated over. Win-win. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/33 "2016-11-19T18:46:16Z")
There seem to be a lot of real reasons Trump won. 101 thought up by the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/34 "2016-11-19T19:11:21Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > If more men are born 107:100, that seems impossible. Then factor in illegal immigration. I don’t care what seems impossible to you. We’re telling you what actually is true. They take a census every ten years and count how many people there are. In the last census, there was 157,000,000 women and 151,800,000 men. _“Reality, meet OriginalGangster. OriginalGangster, this is reality.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/35 "2016-11-19T19:18:33Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > If more men are born 107:100, that seems impossible. Then factor in illegal immigration. > > Not sure if the census counts them or not, some sources say yes, others say no. The census claims they’re counted (probably via estimation), but how many illegals are willingly going to meet with the census enumerator, lol. You mean [the three million illegal immigrants who didn’t vote](http://www.snopes.com/three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/) after [Obama didn’t encourage them to go vote](http://www.snopes.com/obama-encouraged-illegal-aliens-to-vote/)? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/36 "2016-11-19T19:54:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > How many mutually contradictory OPs are you planning on starting? Grind it till you find it! ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/37 "2016-11-19T20:06:38Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > a surplus of single straight men is what allowed Trump to win the electoral college, despite losing the popular vote by a lot. Your theory that Trump won because many men were secretly hoping that he’d import women and deport men, thus getting a more favorable ratio of men:mate-able women, sure is…original, indeed. So much so that the media completely missed it, that nobody said it, that it surpassed lost jobs in the Rust Belt, or racism, or xenophobia, or anti-Hillary sentiment. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/38 "2016-11-19T20:09:22Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Is this one of those tests where you have to get them all right, or does 4 out of 6 get you a passing grade? 😃 Let’s see: [ul] [li]\*Has he moved out of Mom’s basement? \*Pretty important. [/li] [li]\*Does he use good grooming & dress OK? \*Never showering is a real turnoff; otherwise, a fixer-upper might be worth the trouble. [/li] [li]_Does he have a brain, a good heart & a sense of humor?_ Weigh each factor to suit; for example, some women may not care for levity.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/39 "2016-11-19T20:11:08Z")
> [@OriginalGangster](#): > > If more men are born 107:100, that seems impossible. Then factor in illegal immigration. > > Not sure if the census counts them or not, some sources say yes, others say no. The census claims they’re counted (probably via estimation), but how many illegals are willingly going to meet with the census enumerator, lol. Generally speaking, hard facts are more believable than even the most sincerely held “I reckon that…” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406/40 "2016-11-19T20:13:35Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > (Checking join date) Is it November, 2016 already? Yep. There should be an election coming up any day now, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-surplus-in-usa-real-reason-trump-won/772406.md?page=3)