# Male violence and insecurity

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517 "2016-06-27T13:52:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/41 "2016-06-29T01:26:58Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I rarely understand you.

That’s what happens when good old home-cooked American acid is supplanted by that “research chemical” shit from some sketchoid lab in a Chinese warehouse.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/42 "2016-06-29T01:45:48Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Every Deadhead knows the woman is smarter than the man in every way, and that’s not just the LSD talking either …

Whoa…I was just listening to the July 4 show in Buffalo in 1989…they closed the first set with “Man Smart, Woman Smarter”…god, what a night, Jerry was SMOKIN’. Where th’ hell was I on 7/4/89…living on Montgomery Place in Brooklyn…it would’ve been only a seven hour drive to Buffalo…oh man, oh man, opportunities missed. An eight-ball of cocaine and a quarter ounce of hash…incredible Drums n’ Space…encored the show with “U.S. Blues,” well of course they did, it was the Fourth of July…

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/43 "2016-06-29T02:04:43Z")

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Don’t we already have a few Pit threads on Trump?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/44 "2016-06-29T02:47:39Z")

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Do you men … enjoy The Three Stooges? [pointed look]

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/45 "2016-06-29T03:20:37Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Damn … nin’ja’ed again …
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> Women have more genetic material than men … their roll in perpetuating the species is far far more important than that of men.

Putting my “Doctorate in Biology” hat on, this is complete and total horseshit.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/46 "2016-06-29T03:58:49Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Putting my “Doctorate in Biology” hat on, this is complete and total horseshit.

Thank you for donning your hat.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/47 "2016-06-29T04:26:33Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Do you men … enjoy The Three Stooges? [pointed look]

Why, soitenly! N’yuk, n’yuk, n’yuk, n’yuk!

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/48 "2016-06-29T05:40:21Z")

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So TLDR; you have a bizarre twisted (slightly homoerotic?) misunderstanding of masculinity and diarrhea of the keyboard. Because, “guns.”

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/49 "2016-06-29T15:27:28Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Whoa…I was just listening to the July 4 show in Buffalo in 1989…they closed the first set with “Man Smart, Woman Smarter”…

It’s the end of disc 1 on the album, but it was actually the second song of the second set. Think I’ll have another listen to that shortly!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/50 "2016-06-29T15:40:03Z")

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> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#):
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> So TLDR; you have a bizarre twisted (slightly homoerotic?) misunderstanding of masculinity

No worse than the bizarre, twisted, and _deeply homoerotic–and simultaneously homophobic_–misunderstanding of masculinity endemic to US society.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/51 "2016-06-29T16:15:32Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> If you look around the world you live in, it won’t take too long before you observe men in a pointless struggle for dominance in the male hierarchy that exists in their own mind…  
> Basically, he’s a fucking coward…  
> On behalf of the entire rest of humanity…  
> you’re just another cowardly prick obsessed with the fantasy of heroic violence, seeking to gratify your own ego…  
> The world doesn’t want your martyrdom, your petty religious or ideological crusade, or your so-called heroism. And if you think that is what you need to do to be recognized as a man, then guess what, you’re a pretty fucking pathetic excuse for one.

U mad bro?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/52 "2016-06-29T16:53:21Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Putting my “Doctorate in Biology” hat on, this is complete and total horseshit.

I’m sure you’re very proud of your doctorate in such a weighty and important subject, the Nobel Prize Commission is surely looking into this right now trying to figure out how a critical and important work yours has been overlooked for so long. Just how many years of your life did you dedicate to the wrong end of that horse?

Perhaps male sacrifice is rare in the wilds, but it sure is common in the barnyard … billy goats … peacocks … such mundane critters aren’t worthy of the highest study. I can see why they are generally overlooked in the pristine environment of academia.

Does the notion of female superiority make you feel … you know … insecure? Does mentioning this give you thoughts of violence? Were you teased a lot in high school?

Let me dumb this down for you a little … 1 man, 20 women = 20 babies per year … 1 woman, 20 men = 1 baby per year …

[Man Smart, Woman Smarter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DK_qqDC1VE) – Harry Belafonte’s version if you like …

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/53 "2016-06-29T17:09:48Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Let me dumb this down for you a little … 1 man, 20 women = 20 babies per year … 1 woman, 20 men = 1 baby per year …

Put another way:

1 man, 20 women = small business owner, employer/entrepreneur.

1 woman, 20 men = woman owned, sole proprietor.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/54 "2016-06-29T17:15:05Z")

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… and what a lucky girl she is … eh?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/55 "2016-06-29T17:29:35Z")

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It’s a cash business. That’s not luck, that’s just plain smart. QED: Female superiority!

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/56 "2016-07-01T04:40:35Z")

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I’m a little confused, does this mean I have to give up my guns so I can remain friends with my gay friends, or does it mean I have to give up my Fabulous Swag Lamps to keep my guns?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/57 "2016-07-01T05:57:09Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Women have more genetic material than men … their role in perpetuating the species is far far more important than that of men. It’s the man’s job to stand up and face down the lion pride while the women and children flee, and a lion with a belly-full of man ain’t going to be stalking the women or children. Always best if the man isn’t able to think about that, thus man’s ability to think is selected against.

I can’t tell if this is a feminist or MRA talking point. It sounds like an argument both sides would use.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/58 "2016-07-01T08:58:03Z")

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> [@guestchaz](#):
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> I’m a little confused, does this mean I have to give up my guns so I can remain friends with my gay friends, or does it mean I have to give up my Fabulous Swag Lamps to keep my guns?

It means you just have to give up.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/59 "2016-07-01T10:20:09Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I rarely understand you.

In that case, you understand him more often than I do.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/male-violence-and-insecurity/758517/60 "2016-07-01T12:32:28Z")

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Sad to see that so many have internalised the misandry of the matriarchy we live in.

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