# Maleficent (film) will be a box office bomb. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296 "2014-05-12T19:13:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/161 "2014-07-22T00:52:32Z")
And Japan hasn’t reported their numbers since the 13th. I know it’s made more than $19 million there. When those numbers come it’ll jump over the $700 million mark. Bomb bombbombbomb ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/162 "2014-07-22T01:20:58Z")
I just saw it a couple of hours ago, and damn. Great movie. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/163 "2014-07-22T02:41:39Z")
Just posting to note why I haven’t seen it yet: I’m fortunate enough to have two good discount theaters near me, $2 per ticket. Big screen viewing for $2, way better than waiting to stream or pickup from RedBox but without the crazy high cost of first run ticket prices. Any big Hollywood movie aimed at a wide audience will come to the discount theater. So, unless there’s something I’ve been dying to see (or unless it’s a niche film that won’t come to the discount theater) I always wait it out until the discount release. _Spider-man 2_, released 3 weeks before _Maleficent_ has been playing at the discount theater for a month now. _Godzilla_, released a week before _Maleficent_ has been playing at the discount theater for two weeks. I’m starting to think it won’t be until the end of the summer that I get to see _Maleficent_. Every producer should wish they could have this kind of bomb. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/164 "2014-07-22T02:54:17Z")
I love it! (both posts) ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/165 "2014-07-22T03:15:13Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I’m starting to think it won’t be until the end of the summer that I get to see _Maleficent_. > > Every producer should wish they could have this kind of bomb. No kidding. In the greater Chicagoland area, I count that it’s still playing in 29 multiplexes, four of those within the city limits, the rest burbs. In one theater it was down to one showing a day, seven other theaters had it at two showings a day. The rest are three or four showings, with a few at five. I didn’t see a discount theater among them, but I’m not that familiar with the burb theaters. The city theaters were all normal multiplexes. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/166 "2014-07-22T22:04:22Z")
Still playing on 1500 screens. But starting to show signs of fading this week. It will beat the _X-Men_ movie in the domestic yearly chart in a few days. But the _Transformers_ movie will top it first. So it will be at number 4 again. Will cross $230M domestic soon. Don’t see $240M unless Disney promotes it and can hold screens for a while longer. Don’t see a release date yet for video. Disney may not be in a rush to release it. Over at [BoxOfficeProphets](http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=16871&cmin=10&columnpage=3), the weekend wrap up column had this to say: “The Angelina Jolie starrer has been one of the very few bright spots released this summer, as the quasi-original premise has played with big sequel and concept films all summer.” Not a bomb, but definitely Da Bomb. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/167 "2014-07-22T22:06:23Z")
Betting against Disney is usually a very bad idea. I’d be hard pressed to think of a Disney family movie that is bad in recent years. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/168 "2014-07-22T22:11:11Z")
Well, _John Carter_ wasn’t actually bad, but it did bomb. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/169 "2014-07-22T23:20:45Z")
Not a family movie: PG-13. Disney does make bad movies, to be sure, but their bread and butter is family fare and they almost never miss with those. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/170 "2014-07-23T01:15:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Betting against Disney is usually a very bad idea. I’d be hard pressed to think of a Disney family movie that is bad in recent years. I submit The Lone Ranger for your consideration. (just noticed your PG-13 disclaimer but I still think it can be argued that it was meant as a family movie) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/171 "2014-07-23T01:22:48Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > This is so amazing - it will be the all-time box office winner in Japan, even adjusting for inflation…the last movie I can see that was even close was Howl’s Moving Castle in 2004 at $190M. Spirited Away made about ¥30.4 billion ($304 million). The theaters were sold out every day, every showing for about three months. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/172 "2014-07-23T01:24:43Z")
Whatever the MPAA Rating, I’d put _Maleficent_ in with _John Carter_ and _Lone Ranger_ as “Family Friendly aimed at Teens”. So, I think **Chronos** and **Cyros** make valid comparisons. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/173 "2014-07-23T02:05:39Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Spirited Away made about ¥30.4 billion ($304 million). The theaters were sold out every day, every showing for about three months. Cite? Box Office Mojo shows it at $230 million, but I’m sure they could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/174 "2014-07-27T22:18:32Z")
It’s finally fallen out of the top ten as of Friday (day 57 of release). Shed 500 screens and is down to around “only” 1000. Fell 45% this weekend as result. Will likely continue to drop quickly until it hits the “dollar” cinemas. Will rack up just a few million more. Crossed $230M domestic on Thursday. BoxOfficeMojo’s current foreign estimate is $483M. Crossed _X-Men_ but not before being passed by _Transformers_. So still number 4 for the year. _Dawn …_ won’t come anywhere close. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/175 "2014-07-28T00:13:13Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > It’s finally fallen out of the top ten as of Friday (day 57 of release). Shed 500 screens and is down to around “only” 1000. Fell 45% this weekend as result. Will likely continue to drop quickly until it hits the “dollar” cinemas. Will rack up just a few million more. Put another way, it’s just now passed CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER on the all-time list of box-office blockbusters by raking in $715 million – such that it’s now within a mere $1.5 million of next passing mega-hit GRAVITY to take spot #61. > [@](#): > > So still number 4 for the year. Worldwide, though, it’s now finally hit number 3 for the year. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/176 "2014-07-28T01:49:29Z")
Japan last reported its figures on the 20th and it’s just shy of $30 million. That may not seem like much at this point but it opened July 4th. As a comparison, Maleficent has made just over $30 million in the UK, and it opened there May 28. It opened in Brazil the day after, May 29, and has made just over $32 million. It’s $12 million away from making half a billion dollars at the international boxoffice. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/177 "2014-07-28T22:31:15Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Cite? Box Office Mojo shows it at $230 million, but I’m sure they could be wrong. > **[Spirited Away](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirited_Away#Box_office)** > > Spirited Away\[b\] is a 2001 Japanese animated fantasy film written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki. It was produced by Toshio Suzuki, animated by Studio Ghibli, and distributed by Toho. The film stars Rumi Hiiragi, alongside Miyu Irino, Mari Natsuki, Takashi Naito, Yasuko Sawaguchi, Tsunehiko Kamijō, Takehiko Ono, and Bunta Sugawara. In Spirited Away, Chihiro "Sen" Ogino moves to a new neighborhood and inadvertently enters the world of kami (spirits of Japanese Shinto folklore). After her par M... ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/178 "2014-07-29T00:30:27Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > [Spirited Away - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirited_Away#Box_office) You don’t often see Wikipedia cites on the SDMB… ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/179 "2014-07-29T01:23:22Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > You don’t often see Wikipedia cites on the SDMB… I don’t see any reason people shouldn’t use it as a cite on the SDMB. It’s good for casual conversation. And, often, if you don’t believe the data it’s easy enough to follow their [cites](http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/06/04/frozen-ranks-as-third-biggest-hit-in-japan/) to see where they are getting their conclusions from. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296/180 "2014-07-29T02:09:51Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > I don’t see any reason people shouldn’t use it as a cite on the SDMB. It’s good for casual conversation. And, often, if you don’t believe the data it’s easy enough to follow their [cites](http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/06/04/frozen-ranks-as-third-biggest-hit-in-japan/) to see where they are getting their conclusions from. There are multiple values in that Wikipedia link with a wide range, so that’s not really a cite. Also, the link you provided says 30.4B Yen, which at 2001 exchange rates was somewhere in the $243 to $255 million range, not $300 million. Here are some reasonable cites: 229M [http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/tickermaster/listing.cfm?TMID=594:Spirited\_Away\_(Sen\_to\_Chihiro\_no\_kamikakushi)](http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/tickermaster/listing.cfm?TMID=594:Spirited_Away_(Sen_to_Chihiro_no_kamikakushi)) 230M > **['Frozen' Riding 'Perfect Storm' to $200 Million at Japan Box Office](https://www.thewrap.com/frozen-hits-200-million-at-japanese-box-office-thanks-to-perfect-storm/)** > > Teen girls are driving the success of the Disney Animation blockbuster, just as they did with "Titanic" > **[Spirited Away (2001) ⭐ 8.6 | Animation, Adventure, Family](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/)** > > 2h 4m | PG [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maleficent-film-will-be-a-box-office-bomb/688296.md?page=10)