# Malia Obama at Lollapalooza

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 11, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406 "2016-08-11T02:10:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/61 "2016-08-15T15:46:07Z")

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Would the SS step in and stop her if she was smoking something more dangerous than just the weed? What if she was smoking the methamphetamines?

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**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/62 "2016-08-16T00:37:43Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> As far as the SS is concerned, a LEO is a guy wearing a uniform and carrying a GUN. I would hope they’d be much more careful of his approaching her than some kid in a t-shirt smoking a joint.

I presume everyone who seeks to approach her is subjected to some kind of risk assessment, which factors in the characteristics of the person approaching her and the nature and context of the approach.

The options open to the SS are not a simple binary between doing nothing, and prevent the approach by every measure up to and including lethal force. People with SS protection don’t live in a bubble; they are routinely approached by those who have business with them, and that could certainly include an LEO. The SS are more likely to monitor and regulate such an approach than prevent it outright, I would have thought.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/63 "2016-08-16T00:45:29Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Would the SS step in and stop her if she was smoking something more dangerous than just the weed? What if she was smoking the methamphetamines?

In the eyes of (federal) law, those are both the same, and in some cases (say, she was ‘smoking’ Rx ampheatmines, it would actually be less illegal than smoking pot. At that point, you’re getting into judgement calls and possibly stepping on some parenting toes. Don’t get me wrong, if they saw her shooting up (heroin), yes, I could see them stopping her, but I’m really not sure what the answer is. I wonder if there’s a protocol here. There might be, seems like there is for everything else.

> [@UDS](#):
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> I presume everyone who seeks to approach her is subjected to some kind of risk assessment, which factors in the characteristics of the person approaching her and the nature and context of the approach.
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> The options open to the SS are not a simple binary between doing nothing, and prevent the approach by every measure up to and including lethal force. People with SS protection don’t live in a bubble; they are routinely approached by those who have business with them, and that could certainly include an LEO. The SS are more likely to monitor and regulate such an approach than prevent it outright, I would have thought.

So, you’re saying they do an ocular pat down?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/64 "2016-08-16T01:16:17Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Probably for the same reason why you clicked on this thread. She is famous. If it was Jill Smith from Spokane it wouldn’t be news.

Wait… are you saying that Jill Smith was also smoking pot at Lollapalooza? Holy crap; that is news! Was she with Malia Obama?

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**Author:** ![sunrayjack12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5e9695/32.png) [@sunrayjack12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunrayjack12)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/65 "2016-08-16T01:27:38Z")

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More people that put their pants on ,just like the rest of us, who cares.

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**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/66 "2016-08-16T01:57:43Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> So, you’re saying they do an ocular pat down?

I’m saying they make a judgment about whether and how to intervene.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/67 "2016-08-16T03:38:28Z")

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> [@UDS](#):
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> I’m saying they make a judgment about whether and how to intervene.

Worked out well for [The Gang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nuLZ929QiA).

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/68 "2016-08-16T08:28:13Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> So, you’re saying they do an ocular pat down?

Well, I hope theirs work more like Country Mac’s ocular pat downs than City Mac’s.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malia-obama-at-lollapalooza/762406/69 "2016-08-16T08:30:11Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> She turned 18 July 4th of this year.
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> The law in Chicago changed on June 30th to forbid furnishing tobacco to those under 21, yes. And the Grant Park concert location is certainly within the city limits of Chicago. But that’s not a defined crime – it’s a local Chicago ordinance, the transgression of which is a violation, not a criminal act. See Chicago Businesses, Occupation, and Consumer Protection Code § 4-64-190, see also § 4-64-333(a).

I’m curious – does this new Chicago law actually forbid smoking by those who are 18-20 as well, or just furnishing them tobacco inside the city? I couldn’t tell from the articles I read.

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