# Malicious Castration

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 2, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404 "2007-01-02T13:41:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/1 "2007-01-02T13:41:16Z")

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Found this on My Way via Snopes:

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> Woman Charged With Malicious Castration

[http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061230/D8MAT30O9.html](http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061230/D8MAT30O9.html)

My first thought is – _Malicious_ Castration? Do you real;ly need the modifier? Can you imagine anyone being charged with _Friendly_ Castration?  
(Actually, having read some folks’ fantasies, I can. But that’s gotta be a minority)

No doubt there’s some legal reason for putting that “Malicious” in there, but would’ve thought that was understood. Nobody gets charged with Malicious Murder, after all.

I’m also slightly bugged that they apply the term “castration” to the (fortunately for the guy) attempt. But why not call it “Attempted Castration” , which seems closer to the truth than “Malicious Castration”?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/2 "2007-01-02T13:58:41Z")

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Yi. the word “malicious” got my attention as well (not to say that the word “castration” didn’t).

Maybe it was a half-castration, a halfstration, if you will. Maybe it was some sort of Gregor Mendel pea-pod-type experiment, where the “peas” would split off and make new ones.

Okay, I’m talking out of my ass. There’s no way to congenially rob a man of his boys.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/3 "2007-01-02T13:59:34Z")

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Old joke:  
Bloke goes to his doctor and asks to be castrated.

“Why? You are a perfectly healthy young man. As a medical professional, I can’t in any sort of conscience allow this.”

_“No, I’m decided. I WANT to be castrated. If you won’t do it, I’ll find a doctor who will!”_

“Very well. I’ve know you for a long time, and you do seem sensible. I’ll book you in to hospital.”  
In hospital, waking up from the anaesthetic after the operation, our hero turns to the guy in the next bed: “What are you in for?”

\*“I was circumcised.” \*

:smack: “AARGH! _THAT’S_ THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!”

😃

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/4 "2007-01-02T14:02:05Z")

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> Dawson is accused of grabbing the man’s genitals. Police said a weapon was not used. He declined to elaborate.
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> “I believe he needed more than 50 stitches to repair the damage, but he is back home at this point,” police Cpl. Brad Stevens said. “All we can tell you is that the \*\* injury was done with her hands\*\*.”

Jesus Wept!

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/5 "2007-01-02T14:17:47Z")

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My cube neighbors are wondering why I’m groaning out of pain.

Poor dude.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/6 "2007-01-02T14:30:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]  
My cube neighbors are wondering why I’m groaning out of pain.

Poor dude.  
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Hell I have an office, and people are wondering what the hell’s going on in here. Christ Almighty I need a moment.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/7 "2007-01-02T15:13:45Z")

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[quote]  
**CalMeacham** said:  
My first thought is – Malicious Castration? Do you real;ly need the modifier? Can you imagine anyone being charged with Friendly Castration?

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Tammy Felbaum (née Thomas Wyda) was sent to prison after the friendly castration of her husband which resulted in his death (bled out).

Tammy was born male and transitioned after castrating herself, then castrated her husband apparently with his consent.

Does it get weirder?

Yes it does. This was her second husband who allowed her to castrate him. She first castrated husband Lynn Barner in 1983. Lynn has not had SRS but lives as a woman. Sixth husband and second husband to be castrated James Felbaum apparently left a note giving Tammy permission to castrate him. She was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in his death and was sentenced to 5.5 to 11 years in prison.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/8 "2007-01-02T15:42:43Z")

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Weird stuff, **catsix** , but, as I say in the line after the one you quoted, I can imagine “friendly” castration. Although I’m sure most of the folks I’ve read with this fantasy would prefer it remain fantasy, I had no doubt someone practiced it. But not enough to require that modifier “Malicious” for the geberal case.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/9 "2007-01-02T15:52:47Z")

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I only wonder if Tammy will continue practicing unlicensed friendly castration after her release from prison… and if she will ever marry again.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/10 "2007-01-02T16:03:59Z")

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WHACK!

…it **had** to be said. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/11 "2007-01-02T16:07:24Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> I only wonder if Tammy will continue practicing unlicensed friendly castration after her release from prison… and if she will ever marry again.

Let’s look on the bright side.

If she does marry again her husband has a 66% chance of remaining ungelded.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/12 "2007-01-02T16:12:09Z")

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Some people need to grow a pair.

Dawson, on the other hand, possibly needs her hands chopped off.

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/13 "2007-01-02T16:32:04Z")

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She tried to castrate him…

…with. her. bare. hands.

I have a particular aversion to slashing injuries above most others, but the sympathy pains I’m getting just _thinking_ about the idea of someone trying to _pull it out like a root_ is…

Oh, Og. Oh. Cheeses good lord 'n butter, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow…

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/14 "2007-01-02T16:39:16Z")

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Jesus.

Is she mentally ill? Or criminally insane or just a date from the first circle of hell? There has to be some kind of “reason” for her behavior-not excuse, not justification, but “reason”.

My mind is boggling at the visual I’m getting. I hope he fought her off. Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/15 "2007-01-02T16:57:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Mindfield]  
She tried to castrate him…

…with. her. bare. hands.

I have a particular aversion to slashing injuries above most others, but the sympathy pains I’m getting just _thinking_ about the idea of someone trying to _pull it out like a root_ is…

Oh, Og. Oh. Cheeses good lord 'n butter, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow…  
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Am I the only one here thinking of the Bruce Willis scene in ‘Sin City’ accompanied by ripping and pastel-yellow goo…?

“Whatever you do…Don’t Scream.”

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/16 "2007-01-02T17:14:56Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
Jesus.

Is she mentally ill? Or criminally insane or just a date from the first circle of hell?  
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That’s really not fair to the righteous unbaptized.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/17 "2007-01-02T17:25:37Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
Can you imagine anyone being charged with _Friendly_ Castration?  
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Didn’t Anthony Perkins make a movie by that name?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/18 "2007-01-02T17:56:57Z")

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I wonder how many pounds of force it takes…  
…on second thought, I’ll foster ignorance. Please don’t tell me.

Gah. That’s got to be a whole new world of hurt.  
Bleh. I think I need to stop reading this.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/19 "2007-01-02T17:59:54Z")

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I’m a _girl_, and I just crossed my legs and winced. _Damn_.

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**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/malicious-castration/386404/20 "2007-01-02T18:42:54Z")

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Maybe it’s just here in NC we need the modifier. A year or so ago we had a guy up in the mountains arrested for performing the “friendly” version, in a practicing medicine without a license kind of way. These people do not make me proud.

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