# Man commits crime in WI stating: WI prison healthcare is better than other places **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 10, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250 "2019-02-10T00:13:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/21 "2019-02-10T14:30:43Z")
> [@coffeecat](#): > > The punishment of prison is loss of freedom. Since freedom is what we Americans are so proud of and claim to treasure, it should be obvious that’s a great deprivation, regardless of anything else you may get. Oh, and if prisoners eat better than you do, for the love of God, man, _ **LEARN TO COOK!** _ > > Scandinavian prisons are like hotels, and they have a much lower recidivism rate than we do. Go figure. I know how to cook and can afford good food. It isn’t a personal observation, but a societal one. Scandinavian countries have healthcare and basic needs met better than most other parts of the world. No need to commit crimes to go to jail. ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/22 "2019-02-10T14:46:44Z")
I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that prison doesn’t suck enough. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/23 "2019-02-10T16:21:18Z")
> [@coffeecat](#): > > for the love of God, man, _ **LEARN TO COOK!** _ Jerry Reed would agree! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/24 "2019-02-10T16:33:26Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > Felons should get basic care at best. Fun fact: The incarcerated are the only class of people whose right to government-provided healthcare is guaranteed in the US constitution itself. The Supremes have ruled that to fail to provide for their legitimate medical **needs** constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. Of course, many of the incarcerated believe that their medical _wants_ are actual **needs**. Explaining repeatedly that they don’t actually need an MRI because their knee pops and cracks when they use it gets tedious. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/25 "2019-02-10T17:16:30Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > It’s a human rights issue. Its also cheaper. Public health care systems are cheaper than America’s system. And in America, the public health care systems (medicare, medicaid) are cheaper than private insurance. If America’s health care were as efficiently run as Europe, we’d save a trillion dollars a year. ---
**Author:** ![K2500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@K2500](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K2500)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/26 "2019-02-10T18:51:16Z")
Maybe he read this thread. > [@Medical devices needed by prison inmates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-devices-needed-by-prison-inmates/822849/32): > > Me either. I have not had any patients tell me directly that they committed a crime to get health care, but I’ve been told by many after they came back in for another stint in prison that they were glad because at least they’d get proper treatment. ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/27 "2019-02-10T19:08:47Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Fun fact: > The incarcerated are the only class of people whose right to government-provided healthcare is guaranteed in the US constitution itself. The Supremes have ruled that to fail to provide for their legitimate medical **needs** constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. > > Of course, many of the incarcerated believe that their medical _wants_ are actual **needs**. Explaining repeatedly that they don’t actually need an MRI because their knee pops and cracks when they use it gets tedious. Too bad it isnt a bottle of aspirin and s box of band aids. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/28 "2019-02-10T19:39:30Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > The guy’s also basing his opinion about WI prison healthcare on info that’s 50 years old, according to the full article. > > Truth be told, I won’t claim WI prison healthcare is superior to other prison systems, as I lack data to do so. But we do have less violence in our prison system, far lower than the typical US prison. Yeah, tell that to Jeffrey Dahmer. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/29 "2019-02-10T20:40:40Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > But we do have less violence in our prison system, far lower than the typical US prison. Probably because all that cheese. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/30 "2019-02-11T00:40:32Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > At 68, wouldn’t he be qualified for Medicare? I do know that there are some restrictions based on work history, which could be an issue due to his incarceration. 6 months out of a 20 year stint, he barely knows how to open doors for himself, let alone how to access Medicare. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/31 "2019-02-11T00:57:58Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > The guy’s also basing his opinion about WI prison healthcare on info that’s 50 years old, according to the full article. > > Truth be told, I won’t claim WI prison healthcare is superior to other prison systems, as I lack data to do so. But we do have less violence in our prison system, far lower than the typical US prison. > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Yeah, tell that to Jeffrey Dahmer. How long has that been eating you? :flees: ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/32 "2019-04-04T18:54:44Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > The guy’s also basing his opinion about WI prison healthcare on info that’s 50 years old, according to the full article. Turns out, the guy based his opinion about WI prison healthcare from a fellow inmate who’d been in the WI prison system **5** years ago, not 50. So I can claim credit! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/33 "2019-04-04T19:58:49Z")
But isn’t bank robbery a federal crime so he’d go to one of Trump’s specials? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/34 "2019-04-04T21:40:31Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > But isn’t bank robbery a federal crime so he’d go to one of Trump’s specials? He’s in the state prison system, not the federal one. I don’t know the whys or why nots, but that’s the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/35 "2019-04-06T21:34:12Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Turns out, the guy based his opinion about WI prison healthcare from a fellow inmate who’d been in the WI prison system **5** years ago, not 50. So I can claim credit! 😃 Gives you warm fuzzies? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/36 "2019-04-07T01:58:32Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > Gives you warm fuzzies? I’ll take all the affirmations I can get. I work in a max security prison, for Og’s sake!! ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/37 "2019-04-07T02:45:45Z")
The judge ought to REALLY teach him a lesson and deny him a prison sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/38 "2019-04-07T16:37:45Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > The judge ought to REALLY teach him a lesson and deny him a prison sentence. He asked for 10 years. The judge only gave him 3. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250/39 "2019-04-07T18:33:22Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > He asked for 10 years. The judge only gave him 3. But he offered him two additional years for good behavior. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-commits-crime-in-wi-stating-wi-prison-healthcare-is-better-than-other-places/829250.md?page=1)