This is true according to my friend who is a prominent surgeon in his field. He chooses doctors for a very difficult to win residency program and he gets way too many applications to read. His first cut is to only look at applicants from the top medical schools and none of the DO programs make the cut.
I have no medical training at all beyond Boy Scout first aid, and I’m pretty sure that I could tell the difference between a liver and a spleen. Well, I might not recognize the spleen, but I’d know the liver if I saw it.
Fuck that shit. Everyone in the operating room is a professional. Life and death is on the line.
I’m a retired programmer, I spoke out plenty.
The ‘Dr.’ will be sued and lose his license of course. Everyone else that witnessted this should be made to take a class in human anatomy.
How many other people in the OR for a surgery like this? How many of them would know he’s removing the wrong organ before he did such? Wouldn’t the anesthesiologist be monitoring his gauges & dials & not necessarily looking in the patient’s body cavity? I believe in CRM but how many of those in there are in a position to catch a mistake like this?
I’m a programmer, I think I could catch it if watching what was going on. Your right though, the anathesiologist may not be watching. The nurses handing instraments should be.
I’ve had a couple of surgeries, pissed me right off that right before they cut mey open, they where talking about football. Ummm… hello, pay attention please.
They should have been talking about golf 'cause they’re about to make a hole in one.
Nurses should be doing the job they’ve been trained and assigned to do. If that’s not watching the surgery to catch mistakes, then they shouldn’t be doing that.
And believe it or not, surgeons can chat a bit while they’re waiting for the anesthesia to take effect, and still concentrate 100% on the surgery while they’re actually performing it. Maybe you’ve talked about a TV show with coworkers before you’ve started programming, does that mean your code wasn’t as good as it could have been?
After a good slice!
My sister was an OR nurse (and then later was allowed to tie sutures and other surgeon stuff) for over 20 years. As I understand it, in their small town hospital there were 3 nurses in the OR during an operation: one was a circulating nurse, outside the sterile zone and bringing or taking away things; one was working directly with the surgeon (usually only one surgeon, for the kinds of scheduled and emergency surgeries they had), and another one within the sterile zone but I don’t remember what their duties were. The job of the anesthesiologist does not include watching the surgeon, as I understand it. The job of the nurse working with the surgeon is to make sure that all the necessary stuff is there, tools, sutures, etc. and that the surgeon gets what they need when they ask for it. That is their focus, not overseeing the surgery.
From the description, there was apparently an unusual amount of blood, obscuring what was going on even for the surgeon, let alone everyone else. It sounds like the patient died before anyone else had the opportunity to recognize a problem.
Or a bad slice in the OP.
There is typically a huge amount of blood during liver surgery.
Major bleeding is also a known risk in splenectomies.