# Man gets back at girlfriend, injects her son with HIV! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 21, 2002, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859 "2002-11-21T02:59:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/21 "2002-11-21T07:20:50Z")
☹ My only (admittedly barbaric) consolation is that the man will either be in solitary confinement for the rest of his life or be beaten to death in prison. At least then he’d know some extremely small amount of the pain he’s putting the mother and child through. The poor kid…I hope someone finds a cure for AIDS. I hope that kid lives. I hope that he gets cured. And I hope someday, maybe when the kid’s all grown up, he’ll find this man and give him a good, sound kick in the balls. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/22 "2002-11-21T07:36:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Angel of the Lord \* > \*\*…I hope someday, maybe when the kid’s all grown up, he’ll find this man and give him a good, sound kick in the balls. \*\* Every day, at a set time (preferably while Asshat is asleep), for as long as the kid wants. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/23 "2002-11-21T10:55:56Z")
_sigh_ You know those homocidal rages that overtake all people at one time or another… ?? I will now go to sleep after praying for a chance to pull the trigger on this man. ---
**Author:** ![Dirty\_Earthworm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Dirty\_Earthworm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dirty_Earthworm)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/24 "2002-11-21T12:03:49Z")
I was always raised to never wish death on anyone. Sorry, mom and dad. I tried. There is nothing I can say about this waste of life that hasn’t already been said, so I will echo the sentiments of those before me and hope this “guy” (a term I hesitate to use, as it implies that he might actually be human, and therefore the same species as the rest of us) gets what is coming to him. ☹ -Dirty ---
**Author:** ![Elenfair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cc9497/32.png) [@Elenfair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elenfair)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/25 "2002-11-21T12:54:20Z")
… ::: stares blankly at the screen, jaw opening, closing, trying to find words… ::: … ☹ ---
**Author:** ![welby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@welby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/welby)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/26 "2002-11-21T13:03:45Z")
Please God, when this man dies, allow me to be his tormentor in hell for eternity. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/27 "2002-11-21T13:21:35Z")
Words just fail at this. I just hope and pray that the terrible situation of this family moves enough generous people, especially friends and neighbours around them, to give them a better quality of life. It sounds like they have been really struggling financially, which is appalling. ---
**Author:** ![DaToad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@DaToad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaToad)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/28 "2002-11-21T17:41:52Z")
I am sad that I opened this thread and read the linked article. There is no retribution to severe. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/29 "2002-11-21T19:31:27Z")
This part of the article bears quoting here: > [@](#): > > BSJ has also wanted to join the Boy Scouts, but Jackson says the local troop turned him down when she requested that they not disclose his illness to the other scouts and their parents. > > “I told them that it would be OK, that if they use universal precautions, he would be alright. If anything, they’re more of a risk to him than he is to them,” she said. “I told them that if they use the universal precautions, there is really no reason for anyone to know he is HIV-positive. … I know they had a [Supreme Court] ruling where the Boy Scouts could bar homosexuals from joining their organization. Sometimes I think they’re equating being HIV-positive with being gay. But I believe that as the Boy Scouts, they should be at the forefront of things.” > > A spokesman for the Scouts’ Greater St. Louis Area Council said he was unaware that the 11-year-old had run into difficulty with the organization, and said the group would be willing to work with the family to help the boy get involved with Scouting. > > “I would think that if you get a group of [local] parents together, they’d come to a win-win decision,” said Joe Mueller, explaining that the Scouts have no policy barring HIV-infected children, and that local chapters set their own rules for admitting members. “We’d be happy to work with her [Jackson] and her son.” > > He noted in a subsequent e-mail, however, that the national Scouts’ rules do require notification when a member has a deadly, communicable illness. The rule reads: "because of the potential harm to other participants, the existence of the life-threatening communicable disease would have to be disclosed to all of the adult members and in situations involving youth members, to their parents. Unfortunately, any considerations of confidentiality for the afflicted individual are greatly outweighed by the necessity for the other participants to be able to knowingly limit their exposure to the potential harm.? Ah, the Boy Scouts, gotta love 'em. A lot of talk here lately about the death penalty. I’m currently against it because it’s unfairly applied. I feel quite sure that many executed persons have been “less guilty” (in an absolute sense) than this kid’s dad. A slow death, your life destroyed, your family’s lives destroyed, with nightmares about your own dad killing your family … surely this is worse than many quick deaths which have merited execution. I’m not exactly calling for the dad’s blood, but in a system which allows the death penalty, surely **this** guy deserves death. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/30 "2002-11-21T19:57:57Z")
It does appear that the approach taken in prosecuting him is designed to dish out as much punishment as possible. (Not knowing the ins-and-outs of the US justice system, I guess it’s possible that there was some other motivation for only charging him with first degree assault. Maybe case law made a conviction uncertain for attempted murder and they merely wanted to make sure he was sentenced for something?) At any rate, it seems like this way they can warehouse him, and if the boy dies before a cure is found, they can prosecute him for murder, and _then_ push for the death penalty. While I abhor an institutionalized death penalty, there are cases where it doesn’t seem like _such_ a bad idea. In this case, I’d volunteer to be the executioner. Especially if Montana uses lethal injection. With lye. ---
**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/31 "2002-11-21T20:06:40Z")
From the linked article: > [@](#): > > Jackson says she would love to return to work. However, she is also mindful that she cannot take a job that where she would earn too much money. She does not want to take a job that would make BSJ ineligible for the Medicaid that pays his medical bills, and yet would not pay enough to enable her to meet her family’s other costs of living. Now this is such a good argument for socialized healthcare in the states. The story is incredibly sad but I wouldn’t wish the death on his father. A really long life in prison without anything else to do ever. Solitary confinement without anything to do. If he killed himself that would be fine too. However, I would much rather him have to live out his life as a nothing for as long as possible. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/32 "2002-11-21T21:50:36Z")
I can’t believe this poor family is stuck in this financial situation - I live in Canada, and although I personally have not really used it, I think the socialized healthcare system is worth it, simply so that no one has to go through what this family is going through because a member of the family is sick. It could be improved, sure, but the idea behind the system is sound, IMHO. One thing that totally surprised me was that the poor boy’s sister was acting out and aggressive, and she wants to play soccer but can’t for financial reasons. Surely any socer club would make allowances for this? There must be some kind-hearted soul out there who would be willing to help pay or even waive the fees to play? Why should she (and her sister) have to suffer so much for this, too? I can’t belive this man could be as low and disgusting as to do that to someone, especially a child. Somehow it seems a bazillion times worse than if he had injected the mother, and even that is unfathomable! The kid was 11 months old!!! And he DELIBERATELY infected him with HIV/AIDS!!! Insane. “Stop the world, I want to get off”… (I have no idea who to quote for that…) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/33 "2002-11-21T22:27:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Stewart continues to maintain his innocence, seeking a new trial. His defense argued that his son could have contracted the disease through contact with other known drug users and felons who visited the household when he was an infant. However, the people Stewart’s defense named tested negative for HIV. What does this mean? I wish the story would’ve elaborated on this a little more. But regardless, I feel so bad for that family, I feel sick. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2002, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/34 "2002-11-21T23:57:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Happy Lendervedder \* > \*\*What does this mean? I wish the story would’ve elaborated on this a little more. > > But regardless, I feel so bad for that family, I feel sick. \*\* Its called trying to defend an inhuman monster. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/35 "2002-11-22T00:32:08Z")
God, this is one of the sickest things I have ever heard. Death is too good for this evil man. I hope he becomes some huge motherfucker’s bitch in prison, gets passed around like a rag doll, gets AIDS, and has to suffer the same fate as the boy. Yeah, I know, it’s a terrible thing to say. But like **Earthworm** , I just can’t help myself. Some people are just too damn evil. I think perhaps the best thing to do is go and send a check to the trust fund. Is it alright to post the address here? ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/36 "2002-11-22T00:57:57Z")
As for why the charge was first degree asault instead of attempted murder- my guess is that the penalty is the same for both crimes, so the charge that was easier to prove was used. But I have a question about this > [@](#): > > Kids don’t vote, and they don’t have a powerful lobby. Neither, for that matter, do drug dealers or animal abusers. In many states (California, Texas, or Florida, for example) a crime that would put a sixteen year old to death for actions towards a 60 year old woman would put that same sixteen year old in juvie if done towards a 6 year old girl. > > Sucks, doesn’t it? Is there actually a _law_ in those states that provides a lesser punishment for crimes involving a child victims than the same crimes against adult victims? ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/37 "2002-11-22T01:19:09Z")
Well, not knowing his state’s law, I would guess that if he is charged and convicted of attempted murder, the state is precluded from charging him with murder when the kid dies. My WAG is that they want to wait and hit him with a murder charge later on. I don’t usually wish violent crime on someone, but I wish only the worst for this waste of skin. ---
**Author:** ![glarGH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/76d3ee/32.png) [@glarGH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glarGH)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/38 "2002-11-22T01:37:06Z")
this makes me. so. horribly. sad. I keep thinking about that little boy. I hope that sack of shit ‘dad’ rots in fucking hell. FUCK. ---
**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2002, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859/39 "2002-11-22T02:31:38Z")
“She does not want to take a job that would make BSJ ineligible for the Medicaid that pays his medical bills, and yet would not pay enough to enable her to meet her family’s other costs of living.” Hmmm…strange. This seems to vary state to state because if I’m correct, where I live(In Florida) he should be able to get Medicaid no matter how much the parents make because he is a child. That would last until he’s 21 though. That said, I know how the family feels…☹ Make too much to qualify for stuff like Medicaid, make too little to be able to take a hard fall should something go wrong. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-gets-back-at-girlfriend-injects-her-son-with-hiv/137859.md?page=1)