# Man, I hate hippies
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [May 31, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164 "2007-05-31T04:41:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/1 "2007-05-31T04:41:49Z")
So in honor of Memorial Day, for this entire past month at my vidstore you could rent any war movie for $1.99. There are war movies in several different places in the store: we have a Classic War Movie section–I mean, considering that more movies have been made about WWII than probably any other subject, unless you count “relationships” as a subject–and there are war movies in various directors’ sections, like John Ford or Stanley Kubrick. But for this month, we did a big feature section on war movies.
Now, about 80% of the movies in this featured section would be called anti-war movies: _Paths of Glory, No Man’s Land,_ etc. And most of the rest were made during or shortly after WWII, when it was “okay” to support the war effort. None of the movies we chose for the display are “irresponsible” pro-war movies, like _The Green Berets._
So today, this chick with a Guatemalan bag and anti-Bush Tshirt, hair in two long braids, you get the picture–plus, she smelled . . . how to put this: like the earth. On a hot day. Anyway, she comes in and asks for _The Killing Fields._ I point and go, “It’s in the War Movie display.”
She stops, turns, and in a vaguely scolding tone, goes, “Do you have a Peace Movie section?”
I give her the gimlet and say, “Yes, we do,” and point at the War Movie section.
I mean, come on, the display included _The Killing Fields_, the “peace” movie she was looking for. I hate that kind of kneejerk, bumpersticker thinking–or, non-thinking.
I used to work with this woman who I knew liked to cook. I had a car at the time, hers was in the shop. I told her I was going to this huge awesome grocery store that had the best bulk ingredients, serious kitchen geek stuff like 8 kinds of lentils, lime leaves, a dozen kinds of mushrooms, etc. I asked her if she wanted to come along, or wanted me to get her anything. Instead of saying No thanks, she goes–again, with a distinct _tone_–“No, I do all my shopping locally.” The tone was by way of pointing out that I did \*not \* do all my shopping locally, and thus had room for improvement in my relationship with the earth.
I had a friend in Chicago, white chick with dreadlocks, three kids of three different races, who was the most negative and judgmental person I have ever known. Whatever music or movie or food or book or whatever I liked, I’d get a lecture on why I shouldn’t like it. Last straw, after which I pretty much wasn’t friends with her anymore: I bought a $2,000 stereo from my brother in law for $200. I was thrilled: real speakers, real amp, the works. When I told this chick about it, she listened to my description, and my glee at the price, and she pointedly didn’t say anything. I was like, “what?” She goes, “Aren’t you being materialistic?”
So maybe it’s not just hippies I hate. I hate the people who are so sure of their worldview that they’re judgmental of people whose worldview isn’t exactly the same. I’m as hardcore liberal-artsy-environmental as I think it’s possible for someone to be, but I don’t lecture my friends who are not. At least I hope I don’t.
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/2 "2007-05-31T04:55:11Z")
> [@lissener](#):
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> So maybe it’s not just hippies I hate. I hate the people who are so sure of their worldview that they’re judgmental of people whose worldview isn’t exactly the same.
I think you nailed it. The not-bathing factor does make the hippie representatives of this attitude particularly hard to take, though.
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### Author:  [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/3 "2007-05-31T04:59:03Z")
Like, that is so uncool, man… mellow out bro!
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### Author:  [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/4 "2007-05-31T05:02:11Z")
[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow]
Like, that is so uncool, man… mellow out bro!
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Hee. Hey, I \*been \* to Hippy Hollow, so I can say whatever I want to. Man.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/5 "2007-05-31T05:13:50Z")
[QUOTE=lissener]
I hate the people who are so sure of their worldview that they’re judgmental of people whose worldview isn’t exactly the same.
[/QUOTE]
Bingo. The corollary is, the more rigid and extreme the worldview/lifestyle, the more likely the individual holding it will engage in aggressive judgementalism. This is as true for droning Godbots as it is for feckin’ hippies.
One thing you never really see is a wild-eyed moderate. Why is that, do you s’pose? 🙂
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### Author:  [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/6 "2007-05-31T05:16:24Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Bingo. The corollary is, the more rigid and extreme the worldview/lifestyle, the more likely the individual holding it will engage in aggressive judgementalism. This is as true for droning Godbots as it is for feckin’ hippies.
One thing you never really see is a wild-eyed moderate. Why is that, do you s’pose? 🙂
[/QUOTE]
Um, because they’ve been killed and eaten by the truly committed?
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### Author:  [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/7 "2007-05-31T05:39:36Z")
I live in hippie central, and in some ways am one myself, and I can say that there are hippies (chill, ‘I’ll do my thing and you do yours’ kind of people), and then there are obnoxious, my way of life is _the way, the light, etc etc_, and the two are not always the same people.
Maybe it’s because I live in a place so influenced by hippie culture as well as old-school republican, do-it-yourself, mind-your-own-business, friendly-yet-respectful of privacy kind of thought, but most of the hippies I know are not as you describe. Not that I don’t know plenty of those people, but they tend to be a minority, in my experience. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/8 "2007-05-31T06:18:14Z")
Even in the Sixties not all of the hippies were hip. Bet y’all knew that.
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> **Zoe** : The Obvious
Be sure to attribute that quote to me.
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> **Cervaise** : One thing you never really see is a wild-eyed moderate.
Here I am! Me! Me! I am so **Bland** it’s pitiful! That’s what happens when you quit smoking pot.
**Hippies Forever! Make Love Not War! Summer of Love! Woodstock Nation!**
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### Author:  [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/9 "2007-05-31T06:21:28Z")
**lissener** , I wish you some merriment in the hippies you meet. These sound like 1950’s high school librarians.
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/10 "2007-05-31T06:57:53Z")
Holy fucking shit, I agree with **lissener** and loved his OP. I either need to grab another beer or kill myself.
Meh, I like beer.
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### Author:  [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/11 "2007-05-31T07:32:59Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
One thing you never really see is a wild-eyed moderate. Why is that, do you s’pose? 🙂
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You are wrong sir. I am fiercely, _fiercely_ moderate. I’m so moderate that new-age politicians who think they are the epitome of moderation quake in their boots when they see me. I ooze moderation from every pore, and breathe moderation with every breath. And if you don’t join my Moderate’s Cult… I mean, “Society”, I will _crush_ you with my moderation.
How do you like _that_ for moderate, you hypocritical moderate-wannabe scum?
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/12 "2007-05-31T07:37:20Z")
The thing I don’t like about hippies is when they are the opposite - so open-minded that the top of their head is just an exposed brain. They believe and accept _everything_ anyone tells them, even if it directly contradicts the stuff they themselves just spouted about a few minutes earlier.
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### Author:  [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/13 "2007-05-31T07:42:01Z")
[QUOTE=lissener]
I used to work with this woman who I knew liked to cook. I had a car at the time, hers was in the shop. I told her I was going to this huge awesome grocery store that had the best bulk ingredients, serious kitchen geek stuff like 8 kinds of lentils, lime leaves, a dozen kinds of mushrooms, etc. I asked her if she wanted to come along, or wanted me to get her anything. Instead of saying No thanks, she goes–again, with a distinct _tone_–“No, I do all my shopping locally.” The tone was by way of pointing out that I did \*not \* do all my shopping locally, and thus had room for improvement in my relationship with the earth.
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You know, the veggie store that’s about 200 yards from Mom’s sells local produce. The asparagus are from their land, the tomatoes from the next village south, the lettuce from the next village north, the strawberries from Morocco and the Castillian lentils from Canada.
In the big supermarket that Mom hates because she gets lost (too much light, too many things), the asparagus are from within a 100km radius, the tomatoes same-same, the lettuce ibid, the strawberries from Morocco and the Castillian lentils from Canada.
Only because it’s “bought locally” doesn’t mean it’s “local produce.”
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### Author:  [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/14 "2007-05-31T10:14:22Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Bingo. The corollary is, the more rigid and extreme the worldview/lifestyle, the more likely the individual holding it will engage in aggressive judgementalism. This is as true for droning Godbots as it is for feckin’ hippies.
One thing you never really see is a wild-eyed moderate. Why is that, do you s’pose? 🙂
[/QUOTE]
We can all take heart from the fact that feckin’ hippies are powerless irrelevants. It is the droning Godbots and political ideologists like the neo-cons who do the real damage.
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### Author:  [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/15 "2007-05-31T10:49:27Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
One thing you never really see is a wild-eyed moderate. Why is that, do you s’pose? 🙂
[/QUOTE]
Because they have been insidiously brainwashed by the prevailing culture to believe that their unsustainably high level of material wealth is a ‘right’, and that gross disparities in health and wealth between humans is part of a just natural order which justifies maintaining the status quo?
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### Author:  [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/16 "2007-05-31T10:59:47Z")
[QUOTE=Rigamarole]
You are wrong sir. I am fiercely, _fiercely_ moderate. I’m so moderate that new-age politicians who think they are the epitome of moderation quake in their boots when they see me. I ooze moderation from every pore, and breathe moderation with every breath. And if you don’t join my Moderate’s Cult… I mean, “Society”, I will _crush_ you with my moderation.
How do you like _that_ for moderate, you hypocritical moderate-wannabe scum?
[/QUOTE]
In Sweden, there’s a Moderate Youth League.
No lie. Look it up. 😃
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/17 "2007-05-31T11:19:46Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Bingo. The corollary is, the more rigid and extreme the worldview/lifestyle, the more likely the individual holding it will engage in aggressive judgementalism. This is as true for droning Godbots as it is for feckin’ hippies.
[/QUOTE]
And apparently for some atheists too, unless by “droning Godbots” you meant to compliment us in some obscure way.
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### Author:  [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/18 "2007-05-31T11:23:39Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal]
And apparently for some atheists too, unless by “droning Godbots” you meant to compliment us in some obscure way.
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“Us”? I thought **Cervaise** was saying droning Godbots are just as much a subset as the bad hippies are.
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### Author:  [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/19 "2007-05-31T11:25:51Z")
In the early 1980’s, we used to say: Black Flag, kills hippies dead!\*
\*reference to the band Black Flag.
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2007, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-i-hate-hippies/406164/20 "2007-05-31T11:30:33Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold]
“Us”? I thought **Cervaise** was saying droning Godbots are just as much a subset as the bad hippies are.
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Could be. Maybe he’ll clear that up.
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