# Man killed after chess argument **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 15, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914 "2014-01-15T22:39:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/1 "2014-01-15T22:39:01Z")
After browsing around, it appears there’s no thread for this, so . . . In Ireland (Castlenock, a bit north of Dublin, to be precise), a man was found dead and cut open after having [and argument about a chess move](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/irish-chess-killing-italian-lodger-charged-with-murdering-tom-ogorman-tried-to-eat-his-heart-after-argument-over-chess-move-9056800.html). His murderer, apparently, had tried to eat his heart after their heated debate. Well, then. The man was evidently the killer’s landlord. Maybe he felt like a pawn in their relationship. _ducks flying tomatoes_. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/2 "2014-01-15T22:52:12Z")
I wonder if he was texting during the game. StG ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/3 "2014-01-15T23:00:46Z")
The article says he was found early Sunday morning. Must have happened at knight. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/4 "2014-01-15T23:02:29Z")
l’LL EN PASSANT YOU!!! ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/5 "2014-01-15T23:03:19Z")
This is unacceptable. This should only happen in Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/6 "2014-01-15T23:25:06Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > This is unacceptable. This should only happen in Russia. Or Florida. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/7 "2014-01-15T23:56:41Z")
So, what’s a good defence against an opponent who opens with a knife? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/8 "2014-01-15T23:57:42Z")
So, Check Mate then? ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/9 "2014-01-16T00:05:41Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > So, what’s a good defence against an opponent who opens with a knife? The Winchester gambit? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/10 "2014-01-16T00:18:22Z")
“Is it still my move?” [and then dies] ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/11 "2014-01-16T03:52:19Z")
Looks like we need a Bishop for the last rites. ---
**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/12 "2014-01-16T04:56:33Z")
This is not 'Nam, this is chess. There are rules. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/13 "2014-01-16T05:21:31Z")
The case, as extraordinary as it is, seems to be getting extra coverage as the victim was a member of the infamous [Iona Institute](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iona_Institute), a conservative group that opposes same sex marriage. I find the whole sensationalistic coverage of the case very off-putting. Irish journalism is, for the most part, dreadful. Apologies for the lack of chess pun in my post. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/14 "2014-01-16T05:26:45Z")
How do you even have an argument about a chess move? The move is either legal or it’s not. The only moves that’re even vaguely complex are castling and _en passant_, and frankly, those aren’t that complex either. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/15 "2014-01-16T05:43:21Z")
On the same page as the OP’s news article, there’s another article about how you can still be jailed in the UK for being a republican. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/16 "2014-01-16T06:24:02Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > The case, as extraordinary as it is, seems to be getting extra coverage as the victim was a member of the infamous [Iona Institute](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iona_Institute), a conservative group that opposes same sex marriage. I find the whole sensationalistic coverage of the case very off-putting. Irish journalism is, for the most part, dreadful. Apologies for the lack of chess pun in my post. So they were against Queens? ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/17 "2014-01-16T08:57:00Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > On the same page as the OP’s news article, there’s another article about how you can still be jailed in the UK for being a republican. > > 😃 If only that were the case in America. I’ll show you zugzwang! ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/18 "2014-01-16T09:05:51Z")
No thread but I did mention it in here: [A headline you would never see about the US: - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=702454)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/19 "2014-01-16T16:20:18Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > How do you even have an argument about a chess move? The move is either legal or it’s not. The only moves that’re even vaguely complex are castling and _en passant_, and frankly, those aren’t that complex either. Failing to announce _j’adoube_ before touching a piece that you don’t intend to move can result in some heated arguments. That killed Bobby Fischer when he played Wolfgang Unzicker in 1960. Although not literally. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914/20 "2014-01-16T17:20:24Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > How do you even have an argument about a chess move? The move is either legal or it’s not. The only moves that’re even vaguely complex are castling and _en passant_, and frankly, those aren’t that complex either. Perhaps an argument over whether a position repeated three times leading to stalemate? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-killed-after-chess-argument/678914.md?page=2)