# Man Landing on the Moon!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 21, 2001, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316 "2001-08-21T10:01:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gavster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@gavster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gavster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/1 "2001-08-21T10:01:45Z")
Does anyone believe that the yanks landed on the moon??? I can’t see how it was possible and with the picture evidence(too many shadows for one sun etc.)…I think that the yanks were so scared of how advanced the Russians were that they panicked and decided to fake the hole thing… I don’t believe it was ever achieved and I’m pretty sure it will never happen. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/2 "2001-08-21T10:13:17Z")
oh please, not again. ---
**Author:** ![Abe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@Abe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/3 "2001-08-21T10:13:31Z")
I think you are spreading malicious rumours founded by vulgar ignorance and perpetuated by unabated stupidity. Work on that problem before you try tackle the actual facts of the Moon Landing–not that you are capable. No doubt this thread will be closed as it deserves, but before we go: Is there some sort of an anti-NASA cult out there? WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?? Why go to all these lengths of denial?? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/4 "2001-08-21T10:23:11Z")
Your argument is based on what you have found at a few crappy websites?, the authors of which also believe that the rock formations on Mars were carved into faces by aliens and that jet airliners are spraying us with mind-control drugs. The russians also had the technology at the time to be able to detect any such scam (like if the radio signals weren’t coming from the general direction of the moon or something, ever consider that? Please, we’re supposed to be _fighting_ ignorance here, parading around in tinfoil hats and believing everthing you see on shoddy TV ‘science’ shows does nothing to further that goal. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/5 "2001-08-21T10:33:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Does anyone believe that the yanks landed on the moon??? Everyone with at least two brain cells do, anyway. > [@](#): > > I can’t see how it was possible and with the picture evidence(too many shadows for one sun etc.)… Except it IS possible. Too many shadows for one sun? Wrong. Most (all?) the pictures are set with a wide-angled camera lens, which accounts for the distortions in shadow angles. > [@](#): > > I think that the yanks were so scared of how advanced the Russians were that they panicked and decided to fake the hole thing… Except that, if it really were a fake, and if it were really done as some say it was, the fake may have been more difficult than the actual Moon landing. > [@](#): > > I don’t believe it was ever achieved and I’m pretty sure it will never happen. Well, congratulations. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/6 "2001-08-21T10:37:39Z")
One more thing, well, actually five more things; exclamation marks in the thread title - why? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/7 "2001-08-21T10:42:28Z")
Me again, sorry Gavster, you are actually quite right, there’s no way that the moon landing was for real, [this](http://www.brainsluice.com/extra/moonlanding.html) site proves it beyond any dount. ---
**Author:** ![gavster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@gavster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gavster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/8 "2001-08-21T11:10:46Z")
HA! HA! Very funny Mangetout…Everyone has there own opinion…glad to see you can see the funny side of mine ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/9 "2001-08-21T11:25:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*Me again, sorry Gavster, you are actually quite right, there’s no way that the moon landing was for real, [this](http://www.brainsluice.com/extra/moonlanding.html) site proves it beyond any doubt. \*\* You’d think the strange whistling noises would have been a clue… :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/10 "2001-08-21T11:33:18Z")
You’re quite right gavster, everybody does have their own opinion, unfortunately that’s not the same as everybody being right though. Perhaps I was wrong to mock you, but you see, there’s just too much of this pseudo-Xfiles garbage circulating on the internet; if you’d come out with some _original_ observations about why we should doubt NASA’s claims, then I’m sure (I hope) that everyone here would give you a fair hearing, but the moon landing hoax theories have been debunked to death here. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/11 "2001-08-21T11:44:31Z")
Forget about the Moon landing stuff, I think it’s scandalous the way they’ve covered up the French landing on Pluto. ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f19dbf/32.png) [@dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/12 "2001-08-21T11:46:23Z")
Do you reckon when they ( ok, perhaps someone was there before but you know what i mean ) discovered america there were lots of people saying ‘its all made up, honest, they are going somewhere else really’. yea, bet they did ---
**Author:** ![gavster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@gavster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gavster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/13 "2001-08-21T11:48:52Z")
OK How about my theory… How is it possible for the lunar to connect with the orbitting spaceshuttle(orbitting around the moon at around 1000 miles an hour) in one attempt…it’s not luck,it didn’t happen.It didn’t have manovering capabilities because it had to use all it’s ‘juice’ getting off the moon. If a helicopter on earth tried to should straight up into the sky and connect with some object orbitting the earth at 1000 miles an hour I suppose it would hit it spot on first go? It’s a bit hard to explain this theory by written communication… ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/14 "2001-08-21T12:04:49Z")
Howya Gavster. Chonas ata tú? Orbits can be predicted. gravity can be determined and thrust and timing calculated. Mathmatics is a wonderful thing, eh? All the data on the “fake moon-landing” sites has been thouroughly debunked, infact, a good lot of it has been debunked (not officially) in debates on this site right here. Its worth your while to check the search on the Database up in the top right hand corner of this page. Makes for good reading. tóg go bog é. (welcome to the board, BTW) ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/15 "2001-08-21T12:10:42Z")
**gavster** some reading for ya. [Did We Really Go To the Moon? Think about it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=67702) [Was the Apollo moon landing a hoax?](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mmoonhoax.html) a mailbag responce. [Charity drive to feed the empty heads of the Nasa/moon conspiracy theorists](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=60144) [Moon landings](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=70248) [Group Response to Fox’s Moon Conspiracy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=64467) [Creepy: was the moon landing was hoaxed…?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=43098) > [@](#): > > How is it possible for the lunar to connect with the orbiting space shuttle(orbitting around the moon at around 1000 miles an hour) in one attempt…it’s not luck, it didn’t happen. I would hope it wasn’t luck either. I’d guess the engineer/s that worked it out would be pretty pissed to think that just because their work goes over the head of a lot of people that it’s automatically put in the “it didn’t happen” stable. Where did you find out that all the fuel was used on take off? > [@](#): > > If a helicopter on earth tried to should straight up into the sky and connect with some object orbiting the earth at 1000 miles an hour I suppose it would hit it spot on first go? You have seen astonauts working on the hubble telescope haven’t you. How do you think they got there? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/16 "2001-08-21T12:24:05Z")
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. On the date of the supposed landing on the moon, the moon was down to a fairly narrow crescent. The lander couldn’t have landed, and the astronauts couldn’t have gone outside, they’d have fallen off that sharp edge. It would have been like walking a tight-rope to venture out of the lander. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/17 "2001-08-21T12:38:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Abe \* > \*\*Is there some sort of an anti-NASA cult out there? \*\* Actually, there seems to be. One of Steven Baxter’s newer books (Time or, depending on your country Manifold: Time) is about 1/4 psychotic anti-NASA rant. And Baxter’s a Hard (ie: scientifically rigorous) SF writer who should know better. He doesn’t believe in the idea of a “Moon landing hoax”, but he _does_ believe in NASA (_NASA_!) as being a super-competent, eeeeee-vil organization that ruthlessly destroys it’s enemies with dark, sinister malevolence. James Hogan (another Hard-SF writer who’s brain has melted) has suddenly become a Velekofskian(sp) and apparently (from what I’ve heard: I haven’t seen this in Hogan’s own words) believes in the "moon landing hoax) too. And as well as these two author’s books sell, they’re obviously not alone. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/18 "2001-08-21T12:39:49Z")
Anyway, I **do** think the landing on the sun was faked, there’s just no way they could get there and back in a single night while it was switched off. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/19 "2001-08-21T12:54:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gavster \* > \*\*HA! HA! Very funny Mangetout…Everyone has there own opinion…glad to see you can see the funny side of mine \*\* Yeah, but some opinions are based in fact, and some come from having one’s head stuffed firmly up one’s backside. Nor do I find that spreading stupidity and denigrating the hard work of thousands of people to be “funny”. I don’t subscribe to the silly notion that all opinions are equal. Yours, for example, goes beyond dumb and comes right out the other side. Tell ya what. You want some actual discussion about your ‘opinions’? Why not do something that no other “Moon Hoaxer” has done: give us something to work with. I’ll make it easy and list some ideas: How 'bout some proof to your assertions. Hint: Proof is _not_ gedanken experiments like your “Well, if the lunar lander was a helicopter…” thing. Nor is it photographs that are so badly doctored that it looks like the doctoring was done with blunt crayons. Gimme the math that says it wouldn’t work. Give me links to Peer-reviewed Scientific Journals discussing flaws in NASA’s version. Hell, I’d be impressed if I could get one of you “moon-landing hoax” types could give me a coherent (or better: coherent and plausible) reason for NASA to fake it (the usual incoherent ravings about “Commies”, “THE SEConD guNman on THE GrASSY KNOLL haD toBE pROtecTed!”, “…cold war…”, “\ NAZI CLONES OF HITLER’S BRAIN ON THE MOON!”, “…had to beat the Russians…!”, “Green Cheese SHORTAGES! ECONOMIC DISASTER!” doesn’t measure up.) So, yeah. You’ve got a ‘right’ to hold any opinion you want, and everyone else has a right to mock the opinion if it’s as patently idiotic as the whole “Moon-Landing hoax” gibberish. Fenris, who’s getting might damn tired of this particular conspiracy theory. ---
**Author:** ![gavster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@gavster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gavster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2001, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316/20 "2001-08-21T13:19:11Z")
OK people…calm down! It’s my first time entering this website and I thought I’d start a debate…didn’t think to check the archives,SORRY. Obviously I’m outnumber’d so I’ll back down and do more research. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-landing-on-the-moon/77316.md?page=2)