Man Landing on the Moon!!!!!

A fellow SDMB member who has as a sig a quote from Harlan Ellison to the effect that “Everybody is entitled to an INFORMED opinion.”

Unfortunately the only references this thread’s author gives us to “inform” his opinion are uninformative themselves. (And, really, claiming that orbital rendezvous/docking was beyond their capability? We’d been doing it for years before – the US for 4 years, the USSR for 2, just with manned spacecraft, IIRC)

Oh, and welcome to the SDMB Gavster :smiley:

Of course the ‘yanks’ got to the moon. They have, after all, an alien spacecraft of their own hidden in the New Mexico desert. It was a piece of cake.

Well, my father worked on miniaturizing the circuitry that went in the astronauts’ backpacks to the moon. My father was totally incapable of keeping a secret. If the moon landing was faked, he’d-a spilled the beans to my sister and I.

If you want to find research that “proves” the moon landing was fake, you might not be suited for these boards.

Hi artseethru!

That ain’t all I got.

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OK, guys, insult the argument and reasoning if you like, but not the poster. You know da rulz.

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behind denying the reality of the moon landings? What is there to be gained? My only answer would be along the lines of money. People stand to gain financially, similar to making a living claiming that JFK was killed by space aliens, and so on. There must be a big market for loony ideas.

Fenris, Hogan believes in the Moon landing hoax? Really? I know you didn’t say that in so many words, but anywhere where I can find out more infomation about this? I mean, the guy writes Hard Sci-Fi about space communities orbiting Saturn and he doesn’t believe we went a quarter of a million miles to the moon? Weird.

Eve, who do you think you’re fooling? We know you and your sister are in on it too. Please.

gavster

Thank you, that’s all we’re asking.

“Eve, who do you think you’re fooling? We know you and your sister are in on it too. Please.”

—Curses! We would’ve gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for those pesky Dopers and their Gobear!

Of course not, we all know it was actually the Red Sox!

Reminds me of the first time I had sex. Damn was she upset!

Ah, the shuttle can’t leave earth orbit.
Helicopters can’t make escape velocity.

Buzz Aldrin did a lot of work on orbital mechanics for them to manage it with the correct vehicles.

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I don’t know for a fact that he’s a “Moon-hoaxer” (I’ve only heard it discussed second-hand), but I do know that he absolutely is a Velikofskian. Y’know the “Worlds in Collision” gibberish about how Jupiter “spit out” Venus which passed by Earth dozens of times and did stuff like parting the Red Sea and stopping the rotation of the Earth and similar silliness? Hogan’s convinced that it’s all true!

Fenris

Oh for criminy sakes.

First of, they may have been travelling extremely fast relative to the Earth or Moon, but since both vessels were travelling at approximately the same velocity, it was as if they were travelling about 5 MPH.

Think of it this way… two cars are driving on the freeway at exactly 65 MPH. Relative to each other, the cars aren’t moving at all. However, if one of them accelerates to 75 MPH, relative to the other one, it would seem as if it were travelling at 10 MPH.

This is just wrong. It had PLENTY of “juice”. The maneuvering thrusters on the CM had a separate fuel supply from its main burning engines.

Please try a little harder in the future… you think NASA can pull off an elaborate hoax, but you don’t think they can think to give the craft a full tank of fuel?

Here’s a clue: THERE’S NO AIR IN SPACE. Hence, no wind resistance. With no such wind resistance, it doesn’t matter how fast the two vessels are moving, as long as they’re both travelling at approximately the same velocity.

Hmm…if I was worried about hijacking a debate I probably wouldn’t be doing this. I see there being a big difference between the moon hoax and the Velikofskian viewpoint. In one, there is tons of evidence to back up a well known fact, the other one is based upon assumption and speculation on both sides.
Rings of Saturn, which I was originally refering to, shows his viewpoint and explains how something that could come about & how it would affect the Earth. This doesn’t make his theory legitimate, but since there’s no hard proof that it is incorrect, I see it as at least plausible.

Juice? I thought they had Tang…

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Just a quick note regarding shadow angles and multiple light sources(the supposed soundstage moon set scenario).
As a DP I can tell you that lighting a set with fresnels at various positions produces MULTIPLE shadows, some hard some soft. The moon landing shadows are one per object. To create single shadows on each object at varying angles on purpose would be pertneer impossible. Not to mention stupid unless you want people to think something’s amiss.

Its The Bad Astronomer!

I love your site. Keep up the junkscience debunking.