# Man of Steel is going to rock your freaking socks off

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382 "2013-04-11T05:52:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/121 "2013-04-17T16:05:43Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Thanks, **Kamino Neko**. I’ve randomly happened upon some of the old black and white George Reeves television Superman episodes and Clark Kent certainly seems sturdy and confident- really just Superman with glasses in a jacket and tie. So, I didn’t know whether Donner and Christopher Reeve developed the alternate interpretation or not. Interesting to hear that there was a period in which the comics took it to a broader extreme.
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> I do really think Christopher Reeve’s handling of the back-and-forth was very well done, a really great performance.

I do love Christopher Reeve’s work, but I grew up watching George Reeves as Superman. (Thank you, Mr. Obvious!) One thing to remember is that the old B&W TV series was aimed solely at children, as were the comic books of the day. By the time Christopher Reeve had the role, the focus had shifted to teenagers and young adults and more subtleties and adult themes could be explored. It isn’t (or, at least, wasn’t) hard for kids in the early 1960’s to believe that a change of clothes and glasses was a pretty good disguise.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/122 "2013-04-17T16:13:23Z")

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eye masks were (is?) a common disguise, and basically it’s sort of like spectacles with really thick frames. either way, even as a child i never considered them appropriate disguise against anyone you knew.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/123 "2013-04-17T16:52:17Z")

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We still need an effective Luthor. One who sees himself as the “Good Guy,” not a crook or real-estate speculator. The Luthor who is a genius inventor, who had been working to improve the lot of all mankind (and maybe get rich in the process). However, he recognizes that none of his works are safe anymore, and nothing built by a man would be able to stand for more than the blink of an eye against this creature from outer space.

This Luthor will do great things just as soon as he saves us from the threat of the Alien, or at least gets the rest of humanity to recognize the danger of a super-powered being who is indistinguishable from a normal person. That would be an interesting antagonist.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/124 "2013-04-17T17:47:46Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> However, he recognizes that none of his works are safe anymore, and nothing built by a man would be able to stand for more than the blink of an eye against this creature from outer space.
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> This Luthor will do great things just as soon as he saves us from the threat of the Alien, or at least gets the rest of humanity to recognize the danger of a super-powered being who is indistinguishable from a normal person.

I thought he was just mad because he lost all his hair?

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/125 "2013-04-17T17:51:16Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> We still need an effective Luthor. One who sees himself as the “Good Guy,” not a crook or real-estate speculator. The Luthor who is a genius inventor, who had been working to improve the lot of all mankind (and maybe get rich in the process). However, he recognizes that none of his works are safe anymore, and nothing built by a man would be able to stand for more than the blink of an eye against this creature from outer space.
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> This Luthor will do great things just as soon as he saves us from the threat of the Alien, or at least gets the rest of humanity to recognize the danger of a super-powered being who is indistinguishable from a normal person. That would be an interesting antagonist.

There’s a Lexcorp building in the background of one of the scenes, so they’re already setting him up for the sequel as ‘shrewd business tycoon’.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/126 "2013-04-17T17:56:25Z")

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My favorite Luthor was John Shea, in The New Adventures of Lois & Clark. Shrewd, savvy businessman; evil genius; romantically interested in Lois. In the comics Luthor has been a businessman (rather than a mad scientist) since the Crisis of '78.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/127 "2013-04-17T17:56:49Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> We still need an effective Luthor. One who sees himself as the “Good Guy,” not a crook or real-estate speculator. The Luthor who is a genius inventor, who had been working to improve the lot of all mankind (and maybe get rich in the process). However, he recognizes that none of his works are safe anymore, and nothing built by a man would be able to stand for more than the blink of an eye against this creature from outer space.
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> This Luthor will do great things just as soon as he saves us from the threat of the Alien, or at least gets the rest of humanity to recognize the danger of a super-powered being who is indistinguishable from a normal person. That would be an interesting antagonist.

I like this. It is an interesting flip of the idea of Tony Stark opposing Loki (with the help of his friends, of course).

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/128 "2013-04-17T18:25:01Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> In the comics Luthor has been a businessman (rather than a mad scientist) since the Crisis of '78.

He’s both now. Somewhere in the last 5 - 10, They brought back the mad science angle, now fronted and funded by his business tycoonery. To the world, he’s Richard Branson. To the superheroes, he’s the genius in the power suit.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/129 "2013-04-17T18:55:02Z")

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As long as he isn’t still President.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/130 "2013-04-17T20:25:07Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> My favorite Luthor was John Shea, in The New Adventures of Lois & Clark. Shrewd, savvy businessman; evil genius; romantically interested in Lois. In the comics Luthor has been a businessman (rather than a mad scientist) since the Crisis of '78.

The one from the cartoons was kind of both. He was a billionaire company head but also a brilliant engineer.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/131 "2013-04-17T21:06:06Z")

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So was the whole movie run through an Instagram filter?

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/132 "2013-04-17T21:56:36Z")

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New trailer is posted [at Apple](http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/manofsteel/). Holy cow I can not wait.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/133 "2013-04-17T22:41:20Z")

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I so want to see this now.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/134 "2013-04-18T02:52:00Z")

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This movie frankly looks so awesome it’s not describable. Is there some angsty Superman? Looks like it… but it looks like it’s about HOW he becomes the idealist Superman. How he learns his path is nobility and righteousness. I can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![CorneaGenii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@CorneaGenii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CorneaGenii)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/135 "2013-04-18T05:24:27Z")

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Just watched the 3rd trailer, and ok, NOW I want to see it.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/136 "2013-04-18T12:31:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> This movie frankly looks so awesome it’s not describable. Is there some angsty Superman? Looks like it… but it looks like it’s about HOW he becomes the idealist Superman. How he learns his path is nobility and righteousness. I can’t wait.

Yep, this trailer has converted my doubts.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/137 "2013-04-18T14:53:38Z")

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I agree this new trailer is better. The others were sinking down the Dark Knight Rises trailer hole of how THIS. MOVIE. IS. IMPORTANT. Finally some Super heroics.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/138 "2013-04-18T14:57:41Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> I don’t want either one. I want a goddamned idealist.

You had fifty years of idealist superheroes. Our turn.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/139 "2013-04-18T15:15:17Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> I don’t want either one. I want a goddamned idealist.

Steve Rogers doesn’t want to kill anybody. He just doesn’t like bullies.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-is-going-to-rock-your-freaking-socks-off/655382/140 "2013-04-18T15:49:48Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> New trailer is posted [at Apple](http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/manofsteel/). Holy cow I can not wait.

Good trailer. It’s got 'splosions. 'Splosions always make a trailer better. If I was going to whine about anything it would be the grimace on Supe’s face as he lifts or holds a steel structure. The Superman I know has super strength and wouldn’t be grimacing. Unless grimacing means something different on Krypton.

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