# "Man of Steel" trailer - set for release June 2013 looks pretty hot! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728 "2012-12-11T19:09:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/41 "2012-12-13T04:00:53Z")
Which is exactly wrong for Superman. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/42 "2012-12-13T04:28:00Z")
Anyone have a link to the video we are talking about here for non-American computers. That MTV site blocks me out and the youtube searches are not bringing up the same trailer, going by some of the descriptions here. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/43 "2012-12-13T04:30:21Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Anyone have a link to the video we are talking about here for non-American computers. That MTV site blocks me out and the youtube searches are not bringing up the same trailer, going by some of the descriptions here. It worked for me in Australia. It asked me if I wanted to go to the Australian MTV site and I declined. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/44 "2012-12-13T04:33:59Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Anyone have a link to the video we are talking about here for non-American computers. That MTV site blocks me out and the youtube searches are not bringing up the same trailer, going by some of the descriptions here. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-DaPBBOHfsA/maxresdefault.jpg "Man of Steel Official Trailer #2 (2013) - Superman Movie HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DaPBBOHfsA) ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/45 "2012-12-13T04:34:29Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Anyone have a link to the video we are talking about here for non-American computers. That MTV site blocks me out and the youtube searches are not bringing up the same trailer, going by some of the descriptions here. Here you go. It’s the official viral site: [http://www.n77d58w76d19.com/](http://www.n77d58w76d19.com/) ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/46 "2012-12-13T04:56:31Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Which is exactly wrong for Superman. I don’t know what to say. I thought everyone in the universe [had seen this.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk) ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/47 "2012-12-13T04:59:38Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Which is exactly wrong for Superman. The look and feel of the trailer, with its “darker, grittier, edgier and more realistic” angle is already out-of-date before the film even hits screens. It’s ironic that just when audiences are ready for bright, fun and optimistic superhero movies (such as, you know, Superman), WB/DC decide they need to remove everything bright, fun and optimistic in order for Superman to work. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/48 "2012-12-13T07:42:15Z")
> [@astro](#): > > I don’t know what to say. I thought everyone in the universe [had seen this.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk) Jon Peters has an executive producer credit on Man of Steel. I wonder what Chris Nolan thought of him? That must have been a daily battle. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/49 "2012-12-13T13:16:09Z")
> [@Lobot](#): > > The look and feel of the trailer, with its “darker, grittier, edgier and more realistic” angle is already out-of-date before the film even hits screens. It’s ironic that just when audiences are ready for bright, fun and optimistic superhero movies (such as, you know, Superman), WB/DC decide they need to remove everything bright, fun and optimistic in order for Superman to work. The content of that trailer doesn’t look dark or gritty or edgy at all. The colors are muted and the dialog isn’t quippy. That doesn’t make it ‘dark’. The trailer has excited (or at least interested) almost everyone. Every movie doesn’t have to be Avengers now. ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/50 "2012-12-13T13:50:39Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Eh, Superman is so overpowered that if he doesn’t have some sort of internal struggle, there isn’t really much left to make a movie out of. He can only spend so much screen time punching some other slightly less powerful superpowered guy through buildings before it gets boring. > > He was pretty angsty in Superman II, which is still the only good Superman movie. The real problem is that they need to power down Superman. One of the best things about Smallville was that he didn’t have all his powers. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/51 "2012-12-13T14:43:50Z")
I want to see this and I hope it’s good. The thing I’m worried about is that they’re going to fill up the movie with the wangsty internal “What Is Superman?” stuff. There are only so many movies that I can take my kids to and most of them are either cartoons or family comedies filled with fart jokes. They like superheroes but they’re going to be bored fartless if it’s two hours of Superman emoting. Superman needs to punch some stuff. It does have Creepy Agent Squarejaw from Boardwalk Empire in it as General Zod though, so maybe he and Supes are going to duke it out over Metropolis. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/52 "2012-12-13T15:23:34Z")
> [@Lobot](#): > > OK, there’s at least four of us, so it’s not just me, then. > > Nolan’s fingerprints are all over this, especially the desaturated look of the film. At least Marvel understand the trend back towards bright colours and larger-than-life fantasy. Given a choice between The Dark Knight and The Avengers… I mean, I gotta take the Dark Knight movies every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Now, granted, that’s Nolan’s take on BATMAN, not necessarily everything, and the director of this movie, Zack Snyder, is known for being willing to put a lot of cartoony colours up there. I liked “The Avengers” and all, but it wasn’t a fantastic movie and I don’t much understand the love for it. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/53 "2012-12-13T16:05:00Z")
> [@Lobot](#): > > The look and feel of the trailer, with its “darker, grittier, edgier and more realistic” angle is already out-of-date before the film even hits screens. It’s ironic that just when audiences are ready for bright, fun and optimistic superhero movies (such as, you know, Superman), WB/DC decide they need to remove everything bright, fun and optimistic in order for Superman to work. What are the bright fun optimistic superhero movies you’re thinking of? I guess the Avengers and related films? Everybody loved them, I know, but I felt like they played out like a WWWF match. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/54 "2012-12-13T17:28:47Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > You’re in luck, it’s actually Kevin Costner playing Pa Kent. I kan’t stand him either! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/55 "2012-12-13T18:41:36Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > What are the bright fun optimistic superhero movies you’re thinking of? I guess the Avengers and related films? > > Everybody loved them, I know, but I felt like they played out like a WWWF match. My problem with the Avengers… well, I had a lot of problems with it, but 1. The villian was absolutely and completely uninteresting, and 2. The final battle was just atrocious. Seriously, aliens on jet-skis? Being brought down with pistols? The scene with Loki berating the crowd from the party is just… horrible. It looked so cheesy, so insanely _cheap_. They spent a hundred million dollars or whatever making the movie, and honest to God that scene looked like a guy in a $60 Hallowe’en costume yelling at a crowd in a guerrilla film. This is a common problem with superhero movies; how do you evoke the feeling of the comic without making it look cheesy and cheap? “The Avengers” was fun, and had some great acting and great scenes (“I’m always angry”) but then it had shit that was so cheesy and cheap I was taken right out of the movie. I’ll tell you this, they’ve assembled a hell of a cast. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/56 "2012-12-13T20:11:14Z")
I guess milage varies wildly when it comes to comic book movies. I loved _The Avengers,_ and I think the new trailer makes the Superman movie look so dull that I pretty much started doodling on my notepad halfway through. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/57 "2012-12-13T20:35:07Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I kan’t stand him either! Are you macing fun of my akksent? ---
**Author:** ![Nature\_s\_Call](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nature_s_call/32/19006_2.png) [@Nature\_s\_Call](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nature_s_Call)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/58 "2012-12-13T20:38:38Z")
Cevin Kostner as Pa Cent! ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/59 "2012-12-13T21:59:07Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > I guess milage varies wildly when it comes to comic book movies. I loved _The Avengers,_ and I think the new trailer makes the Superman movie look so dull that I pretty much started doodling on my notepad halfway through. Avengers, for me, was some really good fast food. I’d hate it if most of my meals were fast food, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ashley\_Pomeroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@Ashley\_Pomeroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashley_Pomeroy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728/60 "2012-12-13T23:43:13Z")
Well, that didn’t look too bad. Better than the mysterious teaser trailer I saw before _The Dark Knight Rises_, which made it look like a Bela Tarr film. It would be fascinating to see Bela Tarr’s take on Superman - really, I would pay to see that film, but probably only once, and not in the cinema because it would be five hours long. My worry is that it’s going to be inconsequential. Superman almost demands an epic canvas, and based on this trailer we’re going to have an origin story followed by an alien invasion. Like grafting the first half of _Superman: The Movie_ to the last three-quarters of _Superman II_, which admittedly would be an awesome film (I’ve always hated the Lex Luthor business in the first _Superman_; he’s a rubbish villain. [Valerie Perrine’s dress](http://www.mauxa.com/media/images/2011/04/06/valerie_perrine.jpg) is not enough to compensate). But, yes. Origin story. Action sequence with aliens where Superman loses; he ponders; action sequence; action sequence where he wins; he ponders. The problem is that if you treat Superman as a conventional bam-bam-bam action franchise, like the Sam Raimi Spider-Man, he seems small. Treat him as a big epic character and you have the problem of making a franchise out of big, epic films, which is very hard. Especially giving the limitations of the character. I’ve always wondered, in nigh-on eighty years of Superman stories in multiple comics, it’s so hard to come up with a decent film plot. There can’t be a shortage of ideas, of different takes on the character. There was the Watchman-esque government stooge version in The Dark Knight Returns, if they really wanted to kill the character off; make him a villain, like Godzilla, and have the people of Earth finally cast off their reliance on supermen. But, thank effing cripes there’s no effing Kryptonite. Jeepers, gently caress that plot device to heck. I was freaking silly of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-of-steel-trailer-set-for-release-june-2013-looks-pretty-hot/643728.md?page=4)