# Man prevents lifeguard from saving daughter... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 10, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481 "2015-08-10T20:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/1 "2015-08-10T20:45:19Z")
Have you guys seen this yet? Not sure if true but: “Man prevents lifeguard from saving daughter, because being touched by a strange man would dishonour her” > **[Canoe.Com](https://canoe.com/category/news/)** > > Get the latest headlines and breaking news from Canada & World. Stay up-to-date with crime, politics, economy, science, weird & good news. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/2 "2015-08-10T20:50:10Z")
Is it racist to say that some cultures and beliefs are simply fucked up and wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/3 "2015-08-10T20:54:30Z")
“The man has since reportedly been arrested and faces charges.” ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/4 "2015-08-10T20:55:52Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Is it racist to say that some cultures and beliefs are simply fucked up and wrong? If this sort of thing were representative of an entire culture or set of beliefs, not racist at all. It isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/5 "2015-08-10T21:00:56Z")
He preferred his daughter’s death over “dishonor”? :rolleyes: I wouldn’t pit the culture, the lifeguards made every effort to save her against the man’s wishes. They were unsuccessful only because he became physically violent with them. It’s the man himself who’s quite fucked up in the head. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/6 "2015-08-10T21:44:24Z")
Isn’t swimming in public dishonorable? Do they swim in burkas? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/7 "2015-08-10T22:04:08Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > “The man has since reportedly been arrested and faces charges.” Also: > [@](#): > > Waseem Ahmed, the director of risk at Dubai Festival City, told Hotelier Middle East the tragedy highlights the need for more female lifeguards on Dubai’s beaches. Is _that_ what is needed? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/8 "2015-08-10T22:07:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Waseem Ahmed, the director of risk at Dubai Festival City, told Hotelier Middle East the tragedy highlights the need for more female lifeguards on Dubai’s beaches. No, it requires lifeguards to brain people who do this so that they can do their jobs. Every beach I’ve been to there are lifeguards stationed every couple hundred feet in pairs. If something like this happened in Delaware, for example, the two lifeguards would have handled the guy while the others rescued the woman. I wonder why that didn’t happen here. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/9 "2015-08-10T22:12:05Z")
I wonder if her bathing suit was something like this: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409993/Elham-Asghari-Iranian-swimmer-denied-record-outfit-showed-feminine-features.html](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409993/Elham-Asghari-Iranian-swimmer-denied-record-outfit-showed-feminine-features.html) Truly disgusting behavior, I understand cultural relativism is a thing and all but I think some cultures can be superior to others, regarding morals in specific situations. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/10 "2015-08-10T22:16:02Z")
AND if that’s the case, did he make any attempt to rescue her himself, or just restrain the lifeguards? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/11 "2015-08-10T22:18:57Z")
From the article: > [@](#): > > Police told Dubai’s 24-hour news channel Emirates24/7 that the “Asian man” took his family to the beach for a picnic and a day of swimming when his daughter started struggling in the water. What is an “Asian Man?” This implies (to me at least) that the father was not arab. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/12 "2015-08-10T22:31:45Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > AND if that’s the case, did he make any attempt to rescue her himself, or just restrain the lifeguards? Not attempting to rescue her himself (after refusing and blocking the help offered) is the ultimate dishonor of his daughter. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/13 "2015-08-10T22:55:05Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > From the article: > What is an “Asian Man?” This implies (to me at least) that the father was not arab. Most likely Pakistani. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/14 "2015-08-10T23:15:50Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Isn’t swimming in public dishonorable? Do they swim in burkas? Depends on the culture. There’s a pretty robust market for attractive modest swimwear for conservative Muslim, Orthodox Jewish, and conservative Christian women, but again, very culture-dependent. It’s not the swimming that’s immodest, it’s the exposure. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/15 "2015-08-11T01:26:29Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Most likely Pakistani. Probably. Also, Indonesia is mostly muslim, and Islam is also popular on the southern islands of the Philippines. Both countries send plenty of workers to the UAE. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/16 "2015-08-11T03:47:50Z")
Its worth noting that the police who arrested the man and the lifeguards who tried to save the girl are also apparently part of that “culture”. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/17 "2015-08-11T04:19:18Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Is it racist to say that some cultures and beliefs are simply fucked up and wrong? No. Some cultures and beliefs that are fucked up actually defines the racism, sexism, bigotry, etc. Your comment merely calls out what any reasonable person [del]would[/del] _ **should** _ say anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/18 "2015-08-11T04:28:08Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Its worth noting that the police who arrested the man and the lifeguards who tried to save the girl are also apparently part of that “culture”. No, read the article and the above posts. The man and his daughter were visitors from elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/19 "2015-08-11T05:42:36Z")
[Here](http://www.emirates247.com/news/emirates/dad-lets-daughter-die-rather-than-be-touched-by-strange-rescuer-2015-08-09-1.599613)is the original article. Its not something which happened last week. A Dubai policeman was being interview and he recalled this case. Frankly it sounds fishy. > [@](#): > > The father was a tall and strong man. He started pulling and preventing the rescue men and got violent with them. He told them that he prefers his daughter being dead than being touched by a strange man.” > > He pointed out that this delay and fight with the girl’s father cost the girl her life. She drowned. > > “She died unfortunately, at a time when she had a chance to live, especially that the rescue men were so close to her to pull her out of the water.” > > Lt. Col. Burqibah added that the girl’s father was later arrested by Dubai Police for stopping the rescue team from saving his daughter’s life and doing their job. > > “He was prosecuted and sued by the concerned authorities.” [QUOTE=JKellyMap] Most likely Pakistani. [/QUOTE] In Dubai, FME, they rarely refer to Indians and Pakistanis as “Asians”, usually they call them by their nationality, its Far Eaaterners who get called “Asian”. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/20 "2015-08-11T05:55:39Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > [Here](http://www.emirates247.com/news/emirates/dad-lets-daughter-die-rather-than-be-touched-by-strange-rescuer-2015-08-09-1.599613)is the original article. Its not something which happened last week. A Dubai policeman was being interview and he recalled this case. > > Frankly it sounds fishy. Yeah, no names given of the alleged victim or victim’s father (and honestly, how many “Asian” guys are so “tall and strong” that they can detain 2 other adult men?), and apparently happened at some undisclosed point in the past? Whole thing is probably made-up. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481.md?page=2)