# Man prevents lifeguard from saving daughter...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 10, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481 "2015-08-10T20:45:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/41 "2015-08-11T20:03:45Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> If the people who live in the house have the means to pay the fee that funds the fire department, and have chosen not to do so, it is both fiscally foolish and a betrayal of those who DO pay the fee to save the houses of those who do not.

This is the sort of attitude that leads to others seeing our culture as “fucked up and wrong.” You do, however, correctly describe the fucked-up, wrong rationale behind these firefighters’ actions.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/42 "2015-08-11T21:46:51Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> Yes, they do refuse life-saving blood transfusions for their kids. It’s basically the same thing- prioritizing spiritual purity (well, their concept of it) above all.

They’re not the only ones who reject medicine for their children either. There are plenty of rigid Christian sects that believe in faith-healing alone, and have been prosecuted for denying medical attention to their children.

It’s been in the news plenty of times.

In fact, here’s a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=764427) about about it right here in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/43 "2015-08-11T21:55:50Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> If the people who live in the house have the means to pay the fee that funds the fire department, and have chosen not to do so, it is both fiscally foolish and a betrayal of those who DO pay the fee to save the houses of those who do not.

We had a long thread on this incident when it happened - [WTF? Pay Up or We Let Your House Burn Down? - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580852)

Peoples’ opinions are unlikely to change at this point, but it’s worth reminding folks that this house was outside the firefighter’s jurisdiction, the guy had been reminded each year that he needed to pay or he wouldn’t get coverage, he had a fire on his property 3 years previously and was given a free ride, and the fire department came out to make sure no people were in danger.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/44 "2015-08-11T22:00:10Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> We had a long thread on this incident when it happened - [WTF? Pay Up or We Let Your House Burn Down? - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580852)

I recall. That, and the fact that this is a hijack, is why I suggested we drop the subject in my last post.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-prevents-lifeguard-from-saving-daughter/727481/45 "2015-08-12T01:30:24Z")

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I’ll drop it as well.

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