# Man puts disorderly passenger in headlock on Culver City train **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 23, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960 "2016-03-23T16:29:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/1 "2016-03-23T16:29:33Z")
I like how calmly the passenger defuses the situation without any drama or excessive violence. šŸ˜ƒ I guess heā€™s had martial arts training. Miesha Tate defeated Holly Holm with that move a couple weeks ago. Situation on the train could have easily gotten violent. This drunk guy clearly wanted to bust some people up. Glad it ended well. > **[Man puts disorderly passenger in headlock on Culver City train](https://news.yahoo.com/video/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-headlock-191624107.html)** > > A man who stepped up and took down another man terrorizing passengers on a train in Culver City spoke out after video of the dramatic scene went viral. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/2 "2016-03-23T17:17:20Z")
Not a headlock, it was a choke hold, designed to cut off the blood flow to the brain and cause unconsciousness (due to lack of blood to the brain). Hope he did have training since it is potentially dangerous (which is why most trained MMA folks tap out once something like this gets clamped on them). Still, kudos to the guy in what could have been a dangerous situation, and basic rule; young guys without shirts on subways are usually troubleā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/3 "2016-03-23T17:37:02Z")
He swatted at the guyā€™s bike. He didnā€™t attack anyone. Yeah, he was drunk and unpleasant, but I canā€™t condone some random fuck choking him out. To hell with that noise. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/4 "2016-03-23T23:40:05Z")
What _would_ you condone? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/5 "2016-03-23T23:53:26Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Not a headlock, it was a choke hold, designed to cut off the blood flow to the brain and cause unconsciousness (due to lack of blood to the brain). Hope he did have training since it is potentially dangerous (which is why most trained MMA folks tap out once something like this gets clamped on them). This used to be called a sleeper hold. LAPD used to use it. They ended up banning it because of some of the people it was used on died. Itā€™s easy to crush the larynx if not done correctly. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/6 "2016-03-24T02:57:11Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > He swatted at the guyā€™s bike. He didnā€™t attack anyone. Yeah, he was drunk and unpleasant, but I canā€™t condone some random fuck choking him out. To hell with that noise. The guy was harassing people, and someone tried to protect himself with the bike, which the guy attacked. Thatā€™s a lot more than ā€œswattingā€ at someoneā€™s bike, and not attacking anyone. Iā€™m on the side of the ā€œrandom fuck.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/7 "2016-03-24T03:02:28Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > He swatted at the guyā€™s bike. He didnā€™t attack anyone. Yeah, he was drunk and unpleasant, but I canā€™t condone some random fuck choking him out. To hell with that noise. We donā€™t see the complete video so we canā€™t conclude he didnā€™t attack anyone. Regardless, itā€™s obvious the idiot is an obnoxious douche who is, at least, behaving in an aggressive and threatening manner and is fully deserving of some induced surprise nap time. There is no need to tolerate these morons. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-puts-disorderly-passenger-in-headlock-on-culver-city-train/749960/8 "2016-03-24T03:05:20Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > This used to be called a sleeper hold. LAPD used to use it. They ended up banning it because of some of the people it was used on died. Itā€™s easy to crush the larynx if not done correctly. IIRC, there was a race angle to it as well. Some cop used the ā€œsleeper holdā€ on a black guy, who died. Then-Chief Darryl Gates (who, IIRC, already had an established rep as an asshole) made some comment to the effect that there was something about black people that made them more at risk of dying from a sleeper hold, compared to ā€œnormalā€ people. The comment, contrasting ā€œblack peopleā€ against ā€œnormal peopleā€ caused major outrage at the time.