# Man Thows Shoes at W: Can He Sink Lower? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 14, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137 "2008-12-14T18:21:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/1 "2008-12-14T18:21:01Z")
Not sure what forum this belongs in. Can Bush’s life and legacy sink any lower? He was giving a speech during a surprise visit to Iraq and a man threw not one, but two shoes at him (apparently an insult in the middle east). I almost feel sorry for the guy. What’s next, will Barney leave him?[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28220165/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28220165/) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/2 "2008-12-14T18:24:34Z")
I didn’t know Random Task was in Iraq right now. We need to get Austine Powers on this. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/3 "2008-12-14T18:24:49Z")
It was quite a feet. He was a sole brother who was sick of being walked on. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/4 "2008-12-14T18:33:37Z")
I’m going to leave this here in case a debate actually breaks out, but this feels more like an IMHO poll or MPSIMS observation on the world to me. There is not enough rage to be a Pitting. [/Modding] ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/5 "2008-12-14T18:38:27Z")
The saddest thing is, GW managed to duck both attempts. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/6 "2008-12-14T18:43:29Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > The saddest thing is, GW managed to duck both attempts. I think the saddest thing is no one thought enough of Bush to remove mr Random Task from the audience. That really stings you know. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/7 "2008-12-14T18:45:35Z")
Honestly, Who throws a shoe? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/8 "2008-12-14T18:46:30Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > I think the saddest thing is no one thought enough of Bush to remove mr Random Task from the audience. > > That really stings you know. No, no. The real saddest thing is that there is no Youtube clip. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/9 "2008-12-14T18:49:12Z")
Ahhh, just shows he’s not in-step with the rest of the world. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/10 "2008-12-14T18:53:28Z")
I just saw the video on MSNBC. \ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:D ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/11 "2008-12-14T18:55:20Z")
How extraordinary. Throwing two shoes at someone is considered an insult in the Middle East, you say? What a strange culture. I like the implication that throwing only one shoe at someone can be interpreted in other ways. Bush’s life and legacy does not sink any lower merely because some guy in Iraq threw shoes at him. Anybody can have shoes thrown at them. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/12 "2008-12-14T18:56:00Z")
Good call, **Mr. Blather**. For all of the arrogance, hyperpartisanism, and unilateralism of the Bush administration, it’s really the substantiative and carefully considered debate technique of throwing shoes that’s really going to make Bush step back and wonder if his time as president had value for himself or the world. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/13 "2008-12-14T19:03:50Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > The saddest thing is, GW managed to duck both attempts. G.W Bush will likely never face any real consequences for the staggering amount of suffering he has caused others. He’s even managed to duck the minor annoyance of getting hit with a shoe. He’ll retire to his ranch in Texas, spending the rest of his days clearing brush while someone ghost writes his memoirs. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/14 "2008-12-14T19:04:14Z")
“Shoes for the dead!” -Firesign Theatre ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/15 "2008-12-14T19:05:48Z")
> [@chacoguy420](#): > > I just saw the video on MSNBC. > > \ > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:D I didn’t see any ‘shoe-related’ incident? 😕 The report did explain one thing though. If the visit had not been a secret one, I bet the man would have worn his hob-nails! ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/16 "2008-12-14T19:06:49Z")
Where was Bush’s security detail? I just saw the NBC tape and the guy managed to throw one shoe, bend down and then throw the other shoe. While Bush did duck both times, there was more than enough time for someone with a weapon to do far more harm than throwing a shoe. Irrespective of the dislike many of us have for Bush, his security detail really failed here. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/17 "2008-12-14T19:07:10Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > How extraordinary. Throwing two shoes at someone is considered an insult in the Middle East, you say? What a strange culture. I like the implication that throwing only one shoe at someone can be interpreted in other ways. > > Bush’s life and legacy does not sink any lower merely because some guy in Iraq threw shoes at him. Anybody can have shoes thrown at them. I think we could learn from the Iraqis. Lefty is nae, righty is yea. Just throw it at however’s speaking when you’ve heard enough. That should cut down on filibusters. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/18 "2008-12-14T19:07:42Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > G.W Bush will…retire to his ranch in Texas [Not exactly.](http://www.alternet.org/story/112437/bush_ditches_his_ranch_for_ritzier_digs_in_dallas/) ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/19 "2008-12-14T19:09:02Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Where was Bush’s security detail? > > I just saw the NBC tape and the guy managed to throw one shoe, bend down and then throw the other shoe. While Bush did duck both times, there was more than enough time for someone with a weapon to do far more harm than throwing a shoe. > > Irrespective of the dislike many of us have for Bush, his security detail really failed here. They wont even take a shoe for him! Now THAT is sad. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/20 "2008-12-14T19:10:45Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > [Not exactly.](http://www.alternet.org/story/112437/bush_ditches_his_ranch_for_ritzier_digs_in_dallas/) Heh, I’m not surprised. It was all an act. He was born in _Connecticut_, and he’s afraid of horses! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137.md?page=2)