# Man Thows Shoes at W: Can He Sink Lower? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 14, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137 "2008-12-14T18:21:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/81 "2008-12-15T01:36:56Z")
Shoes? How pathetic. I personally liked the way the Communist Party of Skt. Petersburg and Leningrad Oblast have greeted the Obama victory & McCain defeat. > [@](#): > > The days of the bloodthirsty and thieving Bush administration are ending. The American people have rejected the rabid Russophobia and anti-Sovietism of McCain. We, the Communists, believe that McCain must respond to his own defeat like an honorable officer and shoot himself in the head. Or there will be no respect left for him. [Communists of Petersburg on Obama victory](http://www.kplo.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=678&Itemid=5) - I’m currently slinging potty insults in the general direction of your new monkey in command. Proof that he has already sunk low, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/82 "2008-12-15T01:46:50Z")
Dana Perino got a shiner from it all. Microphone hit her in the eye. > **[Iraqi Throws Shoes At Bush During Press Conference (VIDEO)(SLIDESHOW)](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bush-visits-iraq-for-fina_n_150832)** > > Iraqi Throws Shoes At Bush During Press Conference (VIDEO)(SLIDESHOW) ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/83 "2008-12-15T01:58:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Not quite. From the [_On Point_ report](http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/2004/onpoint/ch-6.htm) his cite cites: (bolding mine) > > I think it is fair to say that the U.S. Military _instigated_ the toppling of the statue. And it could very well be that the media chose to spin it as they did. And the PSYOPS people sought to get as much out of it as they could (having the kids climb on the vehicle). But to say that this spontaneous event was “staged” is spin pure and simple. Okay, you’ve adjusted your contention to refer not to **Lobahan** ’s cite, but rather a cite his cite cites. And you are contending while the US military “instigated the toppling” and “sought to get as much out of it as they could (having the kids climb on the vehicle)” that it can in no way be view as being “staged”. ▸ adjective: deliberately arranged for effect I disagree. I don’t care enough about the point to pursue it further myself, and I’m sure it was elaborately discussed at the time, but thank you for your response. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/84 "2008-12-15T02:00:10Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > Waaaay back when, I went to go see the Butthole Surfers (who were incidentally opening for Nirvana, who I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about.) > > A few minutes into their first number, some little twit tossed a shoe at Gibby, and they immediately pulled the plug on the whole show and went home. > > If only… Man, I didn’t realize the Butthole Surfers were such Divas. That’s odd behavior for a quasi-punk band. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/85 "2008-12-15T02:04:25Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Those were some wicked fast reflexes! He just casually dodged both shoes, no big deal. > > Now, if it had been some lib’ral mamby pamby Democratic up there, he’d have been eating leather, screeching like a girl, and nursing a bloody nose. I bet Obama could dodge them. The man does play basketball after all. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/86 "2008-12-15T02:06:29Z")
Is it just me or does Bush like he’s amused by it? ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/87 "2008-12-15T02:06:40Z")
> [@BarnOwl](#): > > Dana Perino got a shiner from it all. > > Microphone hit her in the eye. She later said it was “the worst international incident since that [Cuba mistletoe thingy](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/perino-i-didnt-know-wha_n_76062.html)”. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/88 "2008-12-15T02:09:16Z")
I say, someone throwing shoes at W is a disgrace. That they missed is a bloody tragedy though. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/89 "2008-12-15T02:11:59Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > I say, someone throwing shoes at W is a disgrace. > > That they missed is a bloody tragedy though. Heh, I can still have enough support for my President even if it is Bush to be happy that he was spry enough not to get hit. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/90 "2008-12-15T02:23:13Z")
Hah! In Soviet Russia, shoes throw YOU! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/91 "2008-12-15T02:50:06Z")
This will clearly do better in **MPSIMS**. No real debate ever developed (unless one called the statue harrumphing exchange a debate). ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/92 "2008-12-15T02:58:57Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > This will clearly do better in **MPSIMS**. There’s already a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=497481) [del]there[/del] here. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/93 "2008-12-15T03:11:29Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Heh, I can still have enough support for my President even if it is Bush to be happy that he was spry enough not to get hit. I hate the man but he did show some good moves. It would have been great if he had caught the second shoe and nailed the thrower between the eyes with it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/94 "2008-12-15T03:17:46Z")
A shoeicide attack! Lucky for him it wasn’t Shaq. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/95 "2008-12-15T03:57:41Z")
Why do both threads about this incident in MPSIMS both use the word thows instead of throws in the title? Is there a meme that I missed? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/96 "2008-12-15T04:03:43Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > Not sure what forum this belongs in. Can Bush’s life and legacy sink any lower? He was giving a speech during a surprise visit to Iraq and a man threw not one, but two shoes at him (apparently an insult in the middle east). I almost feel sorry for the guy. What’s next, will Barney leave him?[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28220165/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28220165/) Meh. The guy was a journalist. Figures. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/97 "2008-12-15T04:21:37Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > Okay, you’ve adjusted your contention to refer not to **Lobahan** ’s cite, but rather a cite his cite cites. The cite I provided was the basis for his cite and his subsequent contortion of the actual events. This desire to every fucking thing that transpired in Iraq and insist it be viewed in the worst possible terms is as childish as it is tiring. Some people need new schtick. And that was three or four years ago. But, fine, onward. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/98 "2008-12-15T04:36:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > The cite I provided was the basis for his cite and his subsequent contortion of the actual events. This desire to every fucking thing that transpired in Iraq and insist it be viewed in the worst possible terms is as childish as it is tiring. Some people need new schtick. And that was three or four years ago. > > But, fine, onward. Please repeat in English. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/99 "2008-12-15T04:37:52Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I bet Obama could dodge them. The man does play basketball after all. My guess- if Michelle was with him she’d have capped him with 2 slugs from a pearl handled .32 before he ever got the second shot off. If she wasn’t there, Barack would have tossed a knife straight into the man’s sternum. In fairness, Dick Cheney would have nailed him with force lightning before the first shoe even got to the podium. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137/100 "2008-12-15T05:43:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Please repeat in English. Oops. Insert “take” after “desire” in the second sentence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/man-thows-shoes-at-w-can-he-sink-lower/477137.md?page=6)