# Mandalay Bay (Las Vegas) shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 2, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797 "2017-10-02T07:41:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/1 "2017-10-02T07:41:05Z")
[Bad shit comes to my town](https://apnews.com/4eeaef2efced49698855d13830de3327/Shooting-on-Las-Vegas-Strip-kills-2,-wounds-dozens). 2 dead, 24 hurt so far. > [@](#): > > Dozens of patrol vehicles descended on the Strip after authorities received reports of an active shooter near the Route 91 Harvest Festival. Las Vegas police later said one suspect was “down” but did not give any other details. > > Concert-goers reported seeing muzzle flashes from the upper floors of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino across Las Vegas Boulevard from the country music festival and the sound of what they described as automatic gun fire. > > Twenty-six people were admitted to the hospital, University Medical Center spokeswoman Danita Cohen said. Of those, at least two died, 12 were in critical condition and the rest were being evaluated, she said. Latest word I’m hearing on the local news is that they know where the gunman is, but that’s all we know. [The video footage is scary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zodiGpCdBzQ). ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/2 "2017-10-02T07:44:13Z")
Christ, that sounds like a machine gun. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/3 "2017-10-02T07:46:44Z")
I live on the other side of the airport from Mandalay Bay, about 2 miles as the crow flies. I can see police cars with flashing lights blocking the corners at the two major cross streets near my house. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/4 "2017-10-02T08:00:45Z")
I just saw some other footage on the news that shows very clearly the muzzle flashes. They’re about ⅓ of the way up from Mandalay Bay. The concert venue is across the strip and a bit north of the Mandalay Bay hotel, so a clear shot. The gunshots are really loud, too. LMPD (“Metro”) was supposed to have a press conference at 12:45am, but it hasn’t happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/5 "2017-10-02T08:08:08Z")
A nurse who was attending the concert described what she saw and did, helping wounded people and she described helping two people and moving to a third area and seeing lots of dead bodies, like 6 of them, all young people. :mad:☹ ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/6 "2017-10-02T08:30:58Z")
The shooter is dead and unofficial police sources say the death toll is over 20. It would be a miracle if it doesn’t go much higher after sustained automatic gunfire into a crowd of 40,000 people. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/7 "2017-10-02T08:34:18Z")
20+ dead and 100+ injured according to the press conference. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/8 "2017-10-02T08:34:40Z")
100+ injured. At least 20 dead. Police are looking for a 4’11" Asian female named Marilou Danley. The shooter is dead; he [del]is[/del]was a Las Vegas resident. ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/9 "2017-10-02T08:47:51Z")
I have some friends staying at the Mandalay Bay this weekend. I’m not to worried about them, pretty sure they ain’t at this concert. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/10 "2017-10-02T09:01:17Z")
I know its the Daily Mail but they quote a witness celebrating her 21st birthday saying thstbthete was s Latina going around telling people they were all going to die. > **[At least 59 dead, 527 injured in Las Vegas shooting](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4939872/Active-shooter-reported-Las-Vegas-Mandalay-Bay-Resort.html)** > > GRAPHIC CONTENT An active shooter has been reported at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Hotel, and at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival. It's unclear how many shooters there are. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/11 "2017-10-02T09:21:58Z")
Actually, that’s a remarkably coherent and comprehensive article. Even has the license plate numbers and car models they are looking for. Awesome set of photos and videos, too. They really did a fantastic job considering that this happened only 4 hours ago. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/12 "2017-10-02T09:26:58Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Actually, that’s a remarkably coherent and comprehensive article. > > Even has the license plate numbers and car models they are looking for. Awesome set of photos and videos, too. They really did a fantastic job considering that this happened only 4 hours ago. All my best to you and the rest in Las Vegas. Hope u stay home till they make sure there aren’t more shooters. It just sounds odd that someone could get a machine gun into a Strip motel. Was it a submachine gun or a full on 50 caliber? Why would he do it? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/13 "2017-10-02T09:29:20Z")
Mass shooting on Las Vegas strip, dozens of casualties > **[Mass shooting on Las Vegas strip, dozens of casualties](https://www.reddit.com/live/zpctrtpkt0hw)** > > Latest: 50 deceased, 200 injured. One suspect is dead, two vehicles and one person of interest have been found. A pic of the lady. A lot older than I would have thought. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/14 "2017-10-02T09:34:33Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > All my best to you and the rest in Las Vegas. Hope u stay home till they make sure there aren’t more shooters. It just sounds odd that someone could get a machine gun into a Strip motel. Was it a submachine gun or a full on 50 caliber? Why would he do it? This thing was loud. I’m not a gun guy but I wouldn’t be surprised to find out this was a 50. Reports are that he reloaded like 15 times, so he had clips and from the sound of it, they were big ones. I’m sure details will be forthcoming soon. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/15 "2017-10-02T09:37:41Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Hope u stay home till they make sure there aren’t more shooters. It just sounds odd that someone could get a machine gun into a Strip motel. You could easily fit a disassembled M-249 SAW or even an M-240 GPMG (FN-MAG) into a regular-sized suitcase, not to mention a fully-automatic rifle like an AK. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/16 "2017-10-02T09:42:18Z")
It’s especially sad that, along with the tragedy of thinking “oh shit, another mass shooting?” we have become so divided that, as we wait for info on who the shooter was, some Americans are probably saying “I hope it wasn’t some white supremacist or ant-Muslim nut” and the others are thinking, “I hope the shooter wasn’t a minority or antifa member.” While I’m politically predisposed toward the latter camp, frankly I hope it proves to be a lone nut with NO discernible political or religious ideology whatsoever. We don’t need any more divisiveness in our country. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/17 "2017-10-02T09:44:49Z")
My money’s on a bump-fired AR-15, not a true automatic. Listen to the variation in shooting rate. An automatic wouldn’t sound like that. Bump firing (a spring-loaded stock that bumps the trigger on the rebound) will have that variation. Another possibility is a rotating handle that mechanically hits the trigger. The variation comes from the rate at which you spin the handle. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/18 "2017-10-02T09:49:37Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You could easily fit a disassembled M-249 SAW or even an M-240 GPMG (FN-MAG) into a regular-sized suitcase, not to mention a fully-automatic rifle like an AK. Are you actually allowed to legally buy something like that? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/19 "2017-10-02T09:52:22Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Are you actually allowed to legally buy something like that? No. That doesn’t mean they’re not available. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/20 "2017-10-02T10:03:07Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > My money’s on a bump-fired AR-15, not a true automatic. Listen to the variation in shooting rate. An automatic wouldn’t sound like that. Bump firing (a spring-loaded stock that bumps the trigger on the rebound) will have that variation. Another possibility is a rotating handle that mechanically hits the trigger. The variation comes from the rate at which you spin the handle. I was thinking along similar lines; legally acquiring fully-automatic weaponry in the U.S.A. is a non-trivial exercise; the M-249 and M-240 types **Alessan** mentioned are, to the best of my knowledge, **not** legally available for civilian ownership/purchase (outside of, perhaps, law enforcement agencies); I’m not even sure military-grade, fully-automatic AKs are, either. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797.md?page=2)