# Mandalay Bay (Las Vegas) shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 2, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797 "2017-10-02T07:41:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/21 "2017-10-02T10:09:11Z")
TV news is reporting the shooter is named Stephen Paddock. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/22 "2017-10-02T10:16:04Z")
Marilou Danley has been referred to as the shooter’s companion in some reports, roommate in others, and “someone who knows him” in others, so I figured he might be in the photos on her Facebook page. Her account was shut down while I was looking through it - not sure if that was done by Facebook or her. I was able to use the back button to get [this photo](https://imgur.com/a/2TIyN) though. Out of about 30 photos there weren’t any others of her with a male companion so he could possibly be the shooter. Or he could be a totally unrelated random person in a Facebook photo. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/23 "2017-10-02T10:17:10Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > I was thinking along similar lines; legally acquiring fully-automatic weaponry in the U.S.A. is a non-trivial exercise; the M-249 and M-240 types **Alessan** mentioned are, to the best of my knowledge, **not** legally available for civilian ownership/purchase (outside of, perhaps, law enforcement agencies); I’m not even sure military-grade, fully-automatic AKs are, either. Maybe. My first assumption is that there’s no chance that anyone firing an assault rifle at full auto at that range would be able to hit anything, but shooting into a packed crowd? Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/24 "2017-10-02T10:28:23Z")
H’m. I’ll certainly defer to experience, but it certainly sounded like full-auto fire to me, from two different weapons. One larger caliber (rather like an M-60 to my ears), one smaller. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/25 "2017-10-02T10:32:34Z")
It’s possible for a civilian to own a machine gun, but they’re heavily restricted. There are legal hoops to jump through, a $200 tax stamp, and they banned the sale and importation of new ones in 1986. With the supply restricted, the prices are very high, typically tens of thousands of dollars for a quality assault rifle or machine gun. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/26 "2017-10-02T10:36:03Z")
They’re now saying more than 50 dead. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/27 "2017-10-02T10:37:22Z")
Paddock had multiple weapons in his apt. They found his companion and his vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/28 "2017-10-02T10:37:23Z")
Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/29 "2017-10-02T10:40:59Z")
The new numbers are 50 dead and over 200 injured. It was so awful to wake up to this news and Bo, I’m glad to see you’re okay. You were the first person I thought of when I heard about this today. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/30 "2017-10-02T10:42:51Z")
Danley has been identified as his wife. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/31 "2017-10-02T10:44:54Z")
Stating the obvious, whoever did this is a sick fuck. Why can’t people who are down on life just take themselves out and leave everybody else alone? God, do we need some serious overhaul of mental health in this country. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/32 "2017-10-02T10:45:15Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > Out of about 30 photos there weren’t any others of her with a male companion so he could possibly be the shooter. Or he could be a totally unrelated random person in a Facebook photo. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > TV news is reporting the shooter is named Stephen Paddock. That’s him then. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/33 "2017-10-02T11:02:28Z")
The woman they’re looking for has been located, but they’re using a really weird construction to refer to it: “we are confident we have located the female person of interest.” I wonder if she’s still alive? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/34 "2017-10-02T11:02:31Z")
Bo and other Vegas Dopers, this is shattering, I am so sorry. The new numbers make it the deadliest mass shooting ever in the US. LV Metro reports they killed Paddock. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/35 "2017-10-02T11:03:13Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > …God, do we need some serious overhaul of mental health in this country. What on earth does that mean? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/36 "2017-10-02T11:08:47Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > What on earth does that mean? Yeah. The police report no interaction with him. It will be interesting to hear what his wife has to say, if she is still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/37 "2017-10-02T11:12:12Z")
Fuckwit commentator on CNN has decided a cool way to refer to the crowd is “biomass”. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/38 "2017-10-02T11:30:54Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Yeah. The police report no interaction with him. It will be interesting to hear what his wife has to say, if she is still alive. Apparently, the police were aware of him > **[Las Vegas gunman dead and identified as Stephen Paddock](https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/las-vegas-gunman-killed-but-companion-remains-at-large-as-person-of-interest/)** > > A 64-year-old man holed up in a 32nd-floor hotel room with multiple machine guns rained down gunfire on a Las Vegas country music festival on Sunday, slaughtering at least 58 people in the largest mass shooting in U.S. history before killing... ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/39 "2017-10-02T11:33:20Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Actually, that’s a remarkably coherent and comprehensive article. > > Even has the license plate numbers and car models they are looking for. Awesome set of photos and videos, too. They really did a fantastic job considering that this happened only 4 hours ago. Well, they have some real news to report on so don’t have to make stuff up I guess. Very sad news indeed. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797/40 "2017-10-02T11:33:47Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Stating the obvious, whoever did this is a sick fuck. Why can’t people who are down on life just take themselves out and leave everybody else alone? God, do we need some serious overhaul of mental health in this country. Well, as a placeholder post until more and better info becomes available…I’ll say that I agree with you in principle, with the following caveats: 1. We don’t yet know what the motivation behind the shooting is. I’m favoring “nutjob,” but we really can’t rule out political or religious motivations just yet. As such, better mental health care isn’t going to address those issues. 2. Healthcare of any kind only works when people avail themselves to it. Alcoholics and other addicts to various substances often go years, decades perhaps, without admitting that they have a problem, or otherwise seeking help for it. If a person is publicly exhibiting some form of mental instability, and friends/family intervene on that person’s behalf, then perhaps they can be helped, on an evaluated/involuntary basis. If they otherwise look and act perfectly normal before climbing the clock tower with a rifle… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalay-bay-las-vegas-shooting/797797.md?page=3)