# Mandalorian Season 2 Thread \[Open Spoilers\]
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted
**Created:** [October 12, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794 "2020-10-12T12:55:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/481 "2020-12-20T01:46:24Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> Yes, but Ezra Bridger picked it up in a temple\* - it had been abandoned, at that point, and didn’t belong to anyone. He then turned it over to Sabine; I’d guess that since he’s not Mandalorian, it counted as being returned to its rightful people, no combat required.
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> \*The Nightsister lair, on Dathomir.
That’s not how she got it, she won it in single combat from Gar Saxon: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDs5Vnexucg&ab\_channel=FulcrumFanEdits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDs5Vnexucg&ab_channel=FulcrumFanEdits)
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### Author:  [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/482 "2020-12-20T01:51:22Z")
I stand corrected.
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/483 "2020-12-20T01:52:57Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Thanks, I’m listening to the music over the credits now…
That was a beautiful piece of music. Looked it up, it’s titled “Come With Me”…
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/484 "2020-12-20T02:09:50Z")
> [@carlb](#):
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> I found the CGI on Luke distracting. Were it up to me, I would have had him keep the cowl up, and just show the lower half of his face. The voice would have been enough.
Luckily, I watched this after everyone else went to bed. Because I was saying out loud “Ok, Luke, we had a glimpse. Hood back up, before you go all Polar Express on us…”
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> And, yet…I don’t care. I audibly gasped when the X-Wing came into frame, and I actually yelped with joy when the green lightsaber ignited. Did my old, jaded, cynical heart some good to just have a brief moment of joy.
Yeah, the fanboy side of me wanted obscure characters and plotlines, and an unsatisfying grey-area ending. But the human side of me appreciated them wrapping things up, with some heart even.
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### Author:  [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/485 "2020-12-20T04:40:05Z")
That’s a good point - adding a few blinks would have helped. But they’d have to be at the right time, so that’s probably difficult.
Mark Hamill as Luke was usually not hugely expressive - there are exceptions, like “nooo!” but in general he didn’t ham it up. That helped, I think, with making his CGI version seem more like him. And in context he was supposed to be calm, and not showing too much expression.
It worked for me. It also worked more than a lot of CGI of actors because Mark Hamill is still alive, loaned his voice to the character, and was still credited as playing the role.
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/486 "2020-12-20T04:45:53Z")
There’s a Behind The Scenes special scheduled for Dec 25th, a single episode of the _Disney Gallery_ series, so a lot of the Luke discussion will probably be clarified there.
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### Author:  [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/487 "2020-12-20T06:10:55Z")
Just watched the ep again. Luke definitely blinks and his blinks, to me, looks entirely normal.
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/488 "2020-12-20T06:38:16Z")
Then I stand corrected. I watch a lot of YouTube breakdowns, and all the clips they chose to show had no blinking. I will look out for it again when I re-watch.
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/489 "2020-12-20T09:19:35Z")
You might enjoy [The Owlkitty](https://youtu.be/dh4uUt3Bbjs).
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### Author:  [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/490 "2020-12-21T14:58:30Z")
Jon Favreau was on GMA this morning and confirmed that The Book of Boba Fett show is a different show than Mandalorian. It was purposely not announced along with the other Star Wars movies/shows/mini-series.
It is possible that BF will show up sometime in the Manadalorian and/or Din to show up in the BoBF I would expect at least a mention.
Brian
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### Author:  [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/491 "2020-12-21T15:35:23Z")
I was kind of mixed.
It was hard for me to see the competent, problem-solving strike team just sitting on the bridge waiting for the nearly-unbeatable army to break in and kill them all. If the plot didn’t require a dramatic rescue, they’d have been brainstorming ways to shut down the robot’s command and control system, figuring out ambushes, rigging breathing apparatus so they could escape the bridge, calling Boba for emergency pick-up, or something other than just standing there with near-useless guns pointed at the door.
But maybe they just instinctively knew that the deux-ex-machina fix was in and that the god would appear, kill all the bad guys, solve the problem that the series has been about for two seasons, and disappear. Yeah, it was good having the 20 seconds of Mando knowing that the best thing for Grogu is for him to say good-bye, but the general resolution felt kind of cheap and too quick.
And speaking of getting out of there quickly, why would Luke just leave a Sith Lord sitting there for this random group of bounty-hunters to deal with? Luke has just proven that a powerful force-user is stronger than a robot army, why would he think destroying the robot army eliminates the threat from Moff Gideon (and don’t tell me Moff isn’t a powerful force user: we all saw his expression when he sensed what was arriving on the X-wing. Which was one of the best moments of the episode).
I also thought CGI.Luke was a bit uncanny, though it’s hard to tell how much it was because I was comparing him to LiveAction.Luke.
Also, I still wake up yelling because of the mustache. Why have a mustache if The Way says that nobody will ever see it? WHY?!?
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### Author:  [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/492 "2020-12-21T15:51:13Z")
> [@Quercus](#):
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> And speaking of getting out of there quickly, why would Luke just leave a Sith Lord sitting there for this random group of bounty-hunters to deal with? Luke has just proven that a powerful force-user is stronger than a robot army, why would he think destroying the robot army eliminates the threat from Moff Gideon (and don’t tell me Moff isn’t a powerful force user: we all saw his expression when he sensed what was arriving on the X-wing. Which was one of the best moments of the episode).
1. There’s no internal evidence I can remember from the series that Moff Gideon is a Force user, other than that one fleeting moment. Maybe he just recognized that particular X-Wing (he seems generally remarkably well-informed on a lot of random things).
2. The Star Wars franchise has never been consistent on whether Force users can actually sense each other. Sometimes they seem able to do so, but it’s usually if not always Force users that have a prior, deep connection (Vader and his former master Kenobi, for example). At other times (Palpatine and _the entire Jedi Council_), Force users don’t seem to have any inkling that someone else is a powerful Force user. Even if Gideon is “strong in the Dark Side”, Luke may simply not have known that.
> [@Quercus](#):
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> Also, I still wake up yelling because of the mustache. Why have a mustache if The Way says that nobody will ever see it? WHY?!?
I’m starting to wonder if that’s like the difference in seeing Luke as uncanny valley CGI or a flawlessly lifelike animation. It didn’t look to me like Din had a groomed mustache; I though he looked like he was just indifferently shaved, with a lot of “peach fuzz” and bits of stubble.
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### Author:  [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/493 "2020-12-21T16:56:39Z")
> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Jon Favreau was on GMA this morning and confirmed that The Book of Boba Fett show is a different show than Mandalorian.
Also, Book of Boba Fett films next and Mando S3 after. I’m expecting Mando Season 3 in 2022, then. ☹
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/494 "2020-12-21T17:08:21Z")
> [@Quercus](#):
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> (and don’t tell me Moff isn’t a powerful force user: we all saw his expression when he sensed what was arriving on the X-wing. Which was one of the best moments of the episode).
He isn’t a powerful force user. 🙂
He doesn’t need supernatural insight to be concerned. A fighter is a problem even if the Dark Troopers break in a kill everyone. A single fighter cold destroy his ship since he has no crew. Never mind if it’s a New Republic patrol that could radio for help. He’s stuck on his ship until help comes for him.
Also, he knows that Grogu was on the Jedi beacon. He knows that the Jedi that turned Vader, and was personally responsible for the fall of the Empire happens to fly around in an X-wing. So he’s right to be concerned no matter who is flying in.
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/495 "2020-12-21T17:52:52Z")
> [@Lobohan](#):
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> He knows that the Jedi that turned Vader, and was personally responsible for the fall of the Empire happens to fly around in an X-wing.
I think as far as the rest of the Empire knows, Luke killed Vader and Palpatine himself.
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/496 "2020-12-21T18:02:44Z")
> [@Quercus](#):
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> (and don’t tell me Moff isn’t a powerful force user: we all saw his expression when he sensed what was arriving on the X-wing. Which was one of the best moments of the episode).
I just rewatched that scene. Gideon doesn’t react to the X-Wing. He acts confused once the Dark Troopers stop trying to get in, and then he gets scared once they realize it’s a Jedi.
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/497 "2020-12-21T18:03:58Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> > [@Lobohan](#):
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> > He knows that the Jedi that turned Vader, and was personally responsible for the fall of the Empire happens to fly around in an X-wing.
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> I think as far as the rest of the Empire knows, Luke killed Vader and Palpatine himself.
Possible. I was assuming that Luke told people about the events, and word could have gotten back to Empire intelligence, if he didn’t actually get interviewed by some reporter and it was public knowledge. At least as of the time of the sequel trilogy Ben knew Vader had turned, but he could know that because he was an insider.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/498 "2020-12-21T18:17:34Z")
Luke Skywalker was probably a well-known bogeyman to Imperial officers. The Rebellion would have no doubt had a robust propaganda campaign, that would have included putting names to their “heroes”. So I expect Gideon had some fears it was him as soon as he saw the X Wing.
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/499 "2020-12-21T18:57:44Z")
Gideon was an intelligence officer - he said himself, in this very episode, that one should assume he knows everything. He knew exactly who Luke was, what he did and what he could do.
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/500 "2020-12-21T18:59:20Z")
> [@Quercus](#):
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> (and don’t tell me Moff isn’t a powerful force user: we all saw his expression when he sensed what was arriving on the X-wing. Which was one of the best moments of the episode)
That expression was because out of all the people in that room Gideon was the one who knew who Luke was, he was part of the Empire leadership. He knew Luke, he knew what he could do.
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