# Mandalorian Season 2 Thread \[Open Spoilers\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [October 12, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794 "2020-10-12T12:55:49Z")\
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> [@gdave](#):
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> If that’s the through-line of this season, that the Mandalorian grows in his understanding of the Way and becomes more thoughtful and less reflexively dogmatic, then I think I’ll retroactively like this episode more.

This highlights a problem with reviewing a single episode of an arc. We won’t really know what the important bits are until we have the entire arc.

Edited to add: it’s also good to go back and watch the entire arc again, just to see it with foreknowledge.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/82 "2020-11-05T22:40:46Z")

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The Mandalorian is channeling Lone Wolf and Cub right now, but I believe it could turn into The Seven Samurai at some point.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/83 "2020-11-06T00:50:39Z")

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> [@Galactus](#):
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> The Mandalorian is channeling Lone Wolf and Cub right now, but I believe it could turn into The Seven Samurai at some point

And that point was season 1, episode 4.

> **[Chapter 4: Sanctuary](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_4:_Sanctuary)**
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> "Chapter 4: Sanctuary" is the fourth episode of the first season of the American streaming television series The Mandalorian. It was written by the series' showrunner Jon Favreau and directed by Bryce Dallas Howard. The episode takes place in the Star Wars universe five years after the events of Return of the Jedi (1983). In the episode, the Mandalorian and the Child arrive at the forest planet Sorgan seeking a place to hide. In exchange of a sanctuary, the former agrees to help a group of far...

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And that point was season 1, episode 4.

That felt more like a Clint Eastwood Man With No Name western to me.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/85 "2020-11-06T01:16:37Z")

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> [@Galactus](#):
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> That felt more like a Clint Eastwood Man With No Name western to me

Dude. A number of masterless warriors train a small village to defend themselves from a gang of outside raiders. It is very explicitly _Seven Samurai_.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/86 "2020-11-06T01:22:41Z")

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> [@The Mandalorian series on Disney+ (spoilers as it airs)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-mandalorian-series-on-disney-spoilers-as-it-airs/842670/89):
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> Firefly? It didn’t remind you of Seven Samurai, The Magnificent Seven, Battle Beyond the Stars, The Three Amigos, A Bug’s Life, and [an episode of Clone Wars](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bounty_Hunters_(episode))?

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> [@Galactus](#):
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> That felt more like a Clint Eastwood Man With No Name western to me.

Stolen from Homage of the same source.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/88 "2020-11-06T06:41:11Z")

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So apparently the Tusken Raiders are Native Americans…

> **['The Mandalorian' Season 2 commits a classic sin of Hollywood westerns](https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/mandalorian-season-2-tusken-raiders-native-americans)**
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> 'The Mandalorian' changed the narrative surrounding one of their most reviled aliens by showing them working alongside Mando, but Season 2 reinforces old stereotypes.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/89 "2020-11-06T06:56:42Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I agree that Occam’s Razor is that it’s Boba Fett, but honestly, I always thought Boba Fett was tremendously over rated (I mean, does anyone die more pathetically and comically in the entire Star Wars universe?)

Maybe they’ll establish it’s Boba Fett in the next episode, make us believe he’s going to be integral to the season, and immediately have him get gored by a passing bantha.

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Little late to this, but I have read some of the criticism, especially from @DarthVander and @What_Exit, and I have to ask…have you seen a Western? It’s been repeated over and over that this show is a Space Western, not so much cast from the die of Fistful of Dollars or Magnificent Seven, but more like the TV series Rawhide and The Lone Ranger. Those shows were…really repetitive. Of course that doesn’t mean you have to enjoy it, but it’s completely on brand for the show to have episodes that are highly reminiscent of earlier ones. This is what the show. The Mandalorian is the strong silent type. There’s going to be a lot of this along the way, enjoy the atmosphere, stretch out a bit and soak in the Star Wars galaxy because that’s what it’s for.

Also, I REALLY like that Mando doesn’t take off his helmet. I know this is subversive in an extreme way, almost too ballsy a move for a company like Disney, but damn it’s cool. And I find the characterization that Pedro Pascal gets out of just basic body language is terrific. It’s incredibly interesting to me to watch. I hope he gets over his little diva moment and keeps this up for a good long time, he’s doing something memorable here.

Also, I don’t think I’ve ever read about any of the old canon story about the Krayt Dragon killing the Sarlacc. Gonna have to dig that story up if there is one.

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Next episode is up! It’s a mixed bag of conclusions and steps forward, but is very much a singular adventure.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/92 "2020-11-06T09:04:59Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> So apparently the Tusken Raiders are Native Americans…

It seemed to me that their portrayal in this episode was more like the Fremen of Dune than anything else, right down to the one complaining about the city people “stealing their water”.

Thoughts on today’s episode;

- I thought we were going to see some character development from Baby Yoda after all the problems he caused, but at the end he goes right back to gulping down the frog-woman’s eggs. The fakeout of him seemingly feeling a kinship with her eggs, then turning out that he just wanted to eat them was well-played.
- The visual of the spider queen trying to crack open the Razor Crest, just like Baby Yoda had cracked open the egg, was very well-done.
- I can’t be the only person who was watching Baby Yoda walk up to a bunch of eggs sticking out of the ground and worrying that a Facehugger was about to pop out, right?
- The encounter with the X-wing pilots played out a lot like a traffic stop gone awry. I guess cops can be jerks even in other galaxies.
- I forget the name of Amy Sedaris’ character’s name, but I love the way she shamelessly BSes Din to his face and gets away with it, between getting him to put up Dr. Mandible’s stakes on a hand she knows she’s going to win, and vouching for the frog-woman with her life despite having just met her. Seeing her communicate fluently in the frog language was a nice touch too.
- “We’re going to have to get cozy in the cockpit, it’s the only space I can pressurize. If you have to use the privy, do it now. It’s gonna be a long ride.”
- One nitpick; shouldn’t the bandits who ambushed Din also have had a speeder that he could commandeer and take back to Mos Eisley instead of having to walk?

Overall, I enjoyed it, and it kept me in suspense for most of the episode.

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Here’s an unused piece of art by Ralph McQuarrie from the making of _The Empire Strikes Back_.

[![](https://i.redd.it/rqp902u2u5201.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/rqp902u2u5201.jpg)

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/94 "2020-11-06T09:17:09Z")

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Looks like the writers are digging pretty deep into the corners of Star Wars lore for material. I like it.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> It seemed to me that their portrayal in this episode was more like the Fremen of Dune than anything else

I think that they were always supposed to be Arabs.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/96 "2020-11-06T09:24:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I think that they were always supposed to be Arabs.

Berbers, I think. Their original 1977 designers were probably influenced by the local population in Tunisia.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/97 "2020-11-06T09:42:11Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Berbers, I think. Their original 1977 designers were probably influenced by the local population in Tunisia.

According to Wikipedia, George Lucas said they were inspired by Bedouins. Which, given that they were also the inspiration for the Fremen, explains the similarities between them.

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These beasties showed up in _Star Wars Rebels_, and they’re called [krykna.](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Krykna). First appearance in [The Mystery of Chopper Base](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Chopper_Base)  
_Rebels_, by the way, is a series I highly recommend, along with _Clone Wars_ that preceded it.

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My complaints weren’t about repetition. It was the incredible stupidity of the plan and scene after scene of stupidity. The people in this show were too stupid too live and many didn’t.

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Gotta say, it’s really NOT cute when the child’s antics are literally genocide.

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