# Mandalorian Season 2 Thread \[Open Spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [October 12, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794 "2020-10-12T12:55:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/141 "2020-11-13T23:07:37Z")
Frog Lady’s seeming carelessness with eggs she had indicated were irreplaceable might be a result of Frog People having some traits of an r-selected species rather than a K-selected species. (I googled to find terms for what I was thinking.) An r-selected species produces large numbers of offspring because most will be killed by predators, eat each other, be eaten by other members of their own species, or die from any number of other causes. They only need a small proportion of their offspring to survive to reproductive age. A K-selected species produces a more limited number of offspring, and needs most of them to survive. Frog People culture might focus more on the survival of eggs collectively, than on the specific survival of each egg individually. They might be wired to take such losses in stride. More than the inconsistency from one Star Wars property to another of characters not knowing about or believing in the Force or Jedi, I am annoyed by its inconsistency from episode to episode of this show. Din Djarin/Mando spends almost all of season 1 not knowing how The Child can move things with its mind, until the armorer says Mandalorians had fought a race of sorcerers in the distant past. However, in season 2, he seems to know what Amy Sedaris’s character is talking about when she mentions the Force, and himself uses the “May the Force be with you” phrase when dealing with the X-wing pilots. In season 2 episode 3, he even uses the term Jedi, which I don’t think we have heard anyone else use so far. To me it seems like the writers and directors of different episodes are winging things a little bit without being totally consistent with other episodes, or it is being implied that Din Djarin is continuing to acquire information off-screen between episodes. Either way, I find it a bit jarring when he suddenly appears to know something of which we had previously been led to think he was ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/142 "2020-11-13T23:12:11Z")
> [@Retzbu\_Tox](#): > > In season 2 episode 3, he even uses the term Jedi, which I don’t think we have heard anyone else use so far. The Armorer did indeed use the term when she gave him the mission of bringing the Child to “its own kind.” > [@](#): > > I know of such things. The songs of eons past tell of battles between Mandalore the Great and an order of sorcerers called Jedi that fought with such powers. (from [IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9121546/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_trv_qu)) ---
**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/143 "2020-11-13T23:13:41Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The Armorer did indeed use the term when she gave him the mission of bringing the Child to “its own kind.” Ah! I shall have to re-watch it and set my mind right! 😁 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/144 "2020-11-13T23:32:47Z")
Using “May The Force Be With You” is like saying “May God Go With You” while not knowing much about a particular religion’s rituals. It’s a common enough phrase he has heard people say, without really knowing its etymological history. Also, awareness of the Force does not imply awareness of a small elite police force that utilises magical powers. Din Djarin was brought up in a very sheltered environment within his particular Mandalorian sect, apparently the Death Watch; I can imagine they didn’t necessarily talk about much beyond indoctrinating him with their creed. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/145 "2020-11-13T23:39:43Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I’m sure there are better informed experts than me who are figuring this out, but Bo-Katan’s birthdate is unknown, so if we factor in a lowball guess at 25-ish during _Clone Wars_ , that would mean she would be ~55yrs during this episode. > > Katee is 40, but has looked much the same for the last 15 years, so maybe wouldn’t look too different 15 years from now. So I’ll allow it. I don’t think it’s been 30 years between the Clone Wars and The Mandalorian. There is only 17 years between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope (Luke is 17 during the first movie), so ballpark 20 years total seems more reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/146 "2020-11-13T23:41:52Z")
Selfishly, I hope Mando sees that This Is The Way isn’t the ONLY way and takes his helmet off Pedro’s handsome face again/more often. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/147 "2020-11-13T23:49:15Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I don’t think it’s been 30 years between the Clone Wars and The Mandalorian. According to [this timeline](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history) and this [bio of Bo-Katan](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bo-Katan_Kryze), Bo joined Death Watch 21 years before the Battle of Yavin, and the Mandalorian is set 9 years after the Battle of Yavin, which is 30 years exactly. But I don’t know how old Bo was when she joined them, she could’ve been a teenager. If she was 15, she’d be 45 in this episode. But she seemed to be portrayed older in the cartoon (her sister Satine was considerably more mature) so I think 25 is very likely too, making her 55. It may be officially confirmed in a future encyclopaedic source now that she’s made the jump to live-action. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/148 "2020-11-13T23:57:07Z")
Ok yeah, that is pretty conclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/149 "2020-11-14T00:01:17Z")
Some people have been twisting themselves into knots trying to find ways that Baby Yoda wasn’t _really_ eating the eggs (maybe he was storing them inside himself for safe keeping!) because if he was _really_ eating them, it was evil and sexual harassment\*. So I thought that it was pretty hilarious that one of the eggs hatched–and BY still really, really wanted to eat it. \*No, I’m not exaggerating. Read the comments. Sexual harrasment. > **[We Are All The Mandalorian's Frog Lady | The Mary Sue](https://www.themarysue.com/we-are-all-frog-lady/)** > > Sometimes, there is just a character that you connect to so completely, and that is all of us with The Mandalorian's Frog Lady. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/150 "2020-11-14T00:07:23Z")
Mando is not going to like his review. > ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/151 "2020-11-14T00:57:36Z")
So, as I and others have speculated, it seems _our_ Mandalorian is a member of an extremist sect. The inconsistencies between _Rebels_ and _The Mandalorian_ are pretty well reconciled now. But… Bo-Katan talks about “the Watch” (presumably the Death Watch) as if Mando is a member of them and that they are extremists that she disapproves of. But _she_ was Death Watch! And Death Watch was never portrayed as being as puritanical as Mando’s sect. So…maybe “The Watch” is a splinter sect of the Death Watch? And there are still inconsistencies between _Clone Wars_ (Mandalore is a peaceful planet of farmers ruled by a Duchess and only terrorist extremists still wear Mandalorian armor) and _Rebels_ (Mandalore is a planet of warriors ruled by clans and _everyone_ wears Mandalorian armor)… It seems clear now, the throughline of this season is The Way, and what it means, and Mando grappling with its costs and contradictions, and being confronted by others who have very different views. If he ever meets Sabine Wren, I think he’ll blow a gasket… ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/152 "2020-11-14T01:16:37Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > So…maybe “The Watch” is a splinter sect of the Death Watch? Bo-Katan called Din “a Child of the Watch,” and then referred to “the Children of the Watch,” so it does sound like a splinter sect. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/153 "2020-11-14T01:58:01Z")
Huh. I didn’t parse it that way initially - I heard “child of _The Watch_” and “children of _The Watch_.” But “_Child of the Watch_” and “_Children of the Watch_” seem like a better way to parse that. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/154 "2020-11-14T02:02:51Z")
FWIW, Wookieepedia now has an entry on “Children of the Watch,” though it is, of course, not strictly a canon source of information. > **[Children of the Watch](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Children_of_the_Watch)** > > The Children of the Watch were an orthodox religion of Mandalorians who followed the Way of the Mandalore. According to Lady Bo-Katan Kryze, the Children of the Watch were religious zealots seeking to reestablish the Way, as the ancient faith had... ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/155 "2020-11-14T13:05:29Z")
More on the last episode: We again have the seemingly infinite nested quests. After going to the Mechanic, who demands a price to send him to Mrs. Frog, who demands an Escort Quest to send him to Mr. Frog, in this episode, Mr. Frog (who miracle of miracles doesn’t demand yet another price or quest) sends him to the Mon Cal cantina owner, who demands a price, then sends him to the Quarren sailors, who demand a price, who take him to…a trap!\* But that does lead him to Mandalorians, who…demand a price, yet another Fetch Quest. And at the end of that, they send him on to yet another destination. I’m betting on at least one more episode of nested quests to actually make contact with Asoka Tahno, and that _she’ll_ demand a Quest before she helps him. Also…what was happening in the first act? Why did Mr. Frog send Mando to the Mon Cal cantina? Did he know it would be a set-up? Since Mando leaves the Child with the Frogs, presumably he doesn’t think so, and by extension, we the audience aren’t supposed to think so, but why did Mr. Frog think the Mon Cal knew where to find the other Mandalorians? Why did the Mon Cal send Mando to the Quarrens? Was he in on it? If so, again, why did Mr. Frog send Mando to him? If not, why did the Mon Cal send Mando to the Quarrens? Why did the other Mandalorians show up? Were they following Mando after he landed? If so, why didn’t they just approach him instead of waiting? Did _they_ know it was a trap? The whole sequence just didn’t make any sense to me. \*I _just_ got that as I was typing it. A Mon Cal sent Mando to the Quarren - [Admiral Akbar voice]“It’s a trap!”[/Admiral Akbar voice]. I wonder if that was actually supposed to be a deep dive joke. ---
**Author:** ![DarthVander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7993a0/32.png) [@DarthVander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarthVander)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/156 "2020-11-14T13:50:03Z")
Well, that certainly qualifies as “something” finally happening - hope Bo-Katan and her group will be back sooner rather than later, and excited about Ahsoka’s apparently imminent arrival on the scene - though I wouldn’t put it past the show to have another filler episode before that happens about some more mishaps on the way to Corvus. Seriously, sometimes it feels like they’re just stretching about 3-4 episodes worth of actual story out to an 8 episode season with filler episodes like The Passenger (on most other shows that would have been a 10 minute segment of an episode rather than an episode in itself) and keeping episodes much shorter than normal. Like now I’m intrigued about Bo-Katan’s plan to take back Mandalore and how Din Djarin will get involved in that, but at this rate it feels like it will take about 5 years to get there. > [@gdave](#): > > So, as I and others have speculated, it seems _our_ Mandalorian is a member of an extremist sect. Congrats on getting that right - makes me wonder if this is what they had in mind all along or if they just went reading up on fan forums and nicked this theory as the best way to explain it all 😀 > [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Selfishly, I hope Mando sees that This Is The Way isn’t the ONLY way and takes his helmet off Pedro’s handsome face again/more often. It did give me hope as well that not showing Din’s face might not last for the entirety of the show’s run - though not so much for Pascal’s handsomeness but for being able to hopefully connect more with his character if we can actually see his face - right now I’m still not very invested in him. > [@gdave](#): > > Also…what was happening in the first act? Why did Mr. Frog send Mando to the Mon Cal cantina? Did he know it would be a set-up? I think it’s one of those things they hope you won’t notice - definitely a plothole. > [@gdave](#): > > Why did the other Mandalorians show up? Were they following Mando after he landed? Think so. Sasha Banks’ character saw him at the docks. Could have just approached him there, but maybe they wanted to wait until he got in trouble so he would be in their debt and obliged to help with their planned heist. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/157 "2020-11-14T15:19:53Z")
I just took it as Sasha Banks’ character saw him in the crowd, didn’t want to approach him at that moment, so she went back to her crew and told them about him. They then tailed him for a while to see what he was up to, looking for a clear opportunity to approach him. Instead, a moment of peril arrived, so they stepped (flew) in to help. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/158 "2020-11-14T22:27:56Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > > [@DigitalC](#): > > > > Katee Sackhoff looks better than ever, had to remind myself that she is not really too young to play Bo Katan, she just looks that way. > > I’m sure there are better informed experts than me who are figuring this out, but Bo-Katan’s birthdate is unknown, so if we factor in a lowball guess at 25-ish during _Clone Wars_, that would mean she would be ~55yrs during this episode. > > Katee is 40, but has looked much the same for the last 15 years, so maybe wouldn’t look too different 15 years from now. So I’ll allow it. “Bo” is short for “Botox” in the Star Wars universe ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/159 "2020-11-14T22:31:43Z")
> [@DarthVander](#): > > Also…what was happening in the first act? Why did Mr. Frog send Mando to the Mon Cal cantina? Did he know it would be a set-up? I think we can assume Mr Frog has no reason to betray Mando since a) they just met and b) he rescued Mr Frog’s wife and children. It was probably more like “I heard these shady dudes at this cantina were dealing with Mandalorians. Check it out at your own risk.” ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794/160 "2020-11-14T22:31:44Z")
> [@DarthVander](#): > > > [@gdave](#): > > > > Also…what was happening in the first act? Why did Mr. Frog send Mando to the Mon Cal cantina? Did he know it would be a set-up? > > I think it’s one of those things they hope you won’t notice - definitely a plothole. That’s not a plot hole. If anyone would know about a faction of Mandalorians, it would be the local watering hole. Frog Man just sent him to where the info is. He wouldn’t know that they’d instead conspire to steal his beskar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mandalorian-season-2-thread-open-spoilers/922794.md?page=9)