Mandatory condom use on all porn films: not just a good idea, it's the law!

Killing somebody in self-defense?

The distinction isn’t that they’re performing on film. The distinction is they’re working. So the question should be are there any other cases where it is illegal to do something at work that is legal to do at home? And as Bricker points out, the answer is yes. There are numerous other safety laws that apply to people doing their job that don’t apply to amateurs doing the same thing at home.

I should also point out that the motivation for this law started within the porn business. A group of porn performers have been trying to get this law enacted for years.

So no more money shot, then? :wink:

They’d just take the condom off for that.

Wait a minute-- This law applies to all anal and vaginal penetration scenes? That’s the criterion? Because not all anal or vaginal penetrations are penile. What if it’s a solo woman using a dildo, does the dildo have to have a condom stretched over it? OK, putting a condom on a dildo doesn’t make much difference, but what if, say, it’s a fisting scene? Does a glove count in that case?

And to the both of you I say, point taken.

I see a possibility for a new job category at Cal OSHA :smiley:

That may be the idea. This seems to me to be a zoning ordinance.

Wikipedia has an article on Aids in the porn industry: Sexually transmitted infections in the pornography industry - Wikipedia If I understand it correctly, it is standard industry practice for erotic actors to be tested every 30 days. Is this sufficient? Should the law be tightened? I don’t know: I oppose this measure because I don’t think OSHA type requirements should be settled by ballot initiatives. At any rate wiki says that no adult film industry actor has caught HIV in the past 8 years. Still, I don’t have a problem with this regulation in theory: I do think it should go through the ordinary rule-making process.

That ain’t working!

That depends on whether the penalty is a fine or jail time.

This is a dumb law. As I’m sure has been pointed out, what’s the difference between doing a porno without a condom and simply doing an amateur video without a condom? Is the latter legal? If so, then this law is nonsensical.

The self-monitoring program is a joke run by a former porn actress who was granted a PhD in “sexology” by an unaccredited school and then began putting herself forth as a “doctor.” Porn is like wrestling–there is no such thing as “out of character.” Nothing you hear from people in the industry can be trusted. It’s inevitable that many of the porn performers who simply disappear from the video racks after a few years contracted an STD; and I can name several performers in gay porn who are quite honest about it, but they are just waved off as not counting when giving numbers like this.

I don’t think the condom law is enforceable or a great idea necessarily, but it’s pretty clear that the porn industry brought this on itself with its fake HIV testing and fake HIV statistics. Not to mention the myriad non-HIV infections out there.

Similar to motorcycle and bicycle helmet laws. The public has an interest in that if medical expenses are incurred by risky behavior the costs are most often borne by the public. Years ago my FIL was in a rehab hospital after suffering a stroke. I once visited him in the cafeteria and noted that there were about a dozen young men. I asked why they were there and found they were all(!!) motorcycle riders, most who had been riding without helmets.

An emergency room physician friend of mine says he calls helmetless motorcycle riders, “Organ Donors”.

Perhaps a compromise law could be enacted. Condomless sex workers agree to become “human lab rats” for experimental drugs. Some of them, unknowingly, will be “controls”. I wonder if that would scare any of them.

Yes

I’ll grant you that Sharon Mitchell’s academic credentials were shaky. The “school” that gave her a degree is unaccredited. But while she’s probably not qualified to do medical research, I haven’t heard anything to suggest she couldn’t run a blood testing facility.

AIM (the Adult Industry Medical Associates) seemed to take its job seriously and professionally. It conducted regular tests and kept good records. And on two occasions it announced it had found an infection problem in the porn business and shut down all production while the problem was addressed so it doesn’t appear it was just a front operation to give the studios cover.

I think it’s unfortunate AIM was targeted with hacker attacks and lawsuits and had to shut down in 2011.

Can’t smoke on television, that’s sort of similar.

Since when?

Are porn actors covered by workers compensation? Insurance companies probably do more to enforce and reward workplace safety measures than the government.

“You can’t work because you sprained what?”