# Manfredi and Johnson (TEGWAR)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453 "2015-09-25T02:11:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/1 "2015-09-25T02:11:19Z")

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This might be a fun exercise if people can avoid Googling and referring to IMDb.

A little while ago these names crept into my consciousness and I scratched my head trying to remember where and when I had heard of them. After I was pretty sure I knew the answer I did in fact check with a search of the web.

If you know them straightaway say so. If not, and you have to search for them, after you find them, and you want to, advance another puzzling question or tidbit of trivia.

I didn’t want to go to The Game Room for this, since I would hope it could remain a Café Society exercise. But I’m okay with it being moved once the replies indicate that’s preferable.

Anyway it’s a “make up the rules as we go along” sort of thing. Sort of a TEGWAR. (another movie trivia thing – name the source!)

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/2 "2015-09-25T03:07:51Z")

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Running Man

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/3 "2015-09-25T03:10:18Z")

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Damn got it wrong. If you want this to be an ongoing thing it probably should be the Game Room.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/4 "2015-09-25T03:18:00Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Damn got it wrong. If you want this to be an ongoing thing it probably should be the Game Room.

Okay with me on the move.

Stalag 17 and Bang the Drum Slowly

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/5 "2015-09-25T04:54:21Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Okay with me on the move.
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> Stalag 17 and Bang the Drum Slowly

[Also Penguins of Madagascar but it was Stalg 17 that was in the back of my mind

Once I looked it up the movie started playing in my head. I’ve watched it many times.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/6 "2015-09-25T07:25:38Z")

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Uhhhhh…

Easy one! The two GIs gunned down by the Germans at the start of\*\*\* Stalag 17\*\*\*.

Now give us a real challenge! 🆒

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/7 "2015-09-25T07:28:49Z")

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Crap! :mad:

TEGWAR—something to do with Shatner’s _ **TechWar** _ series? Dunno, never watched it. (I was probably out of the country at the time.)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/8 "2015-09-25T11:14:42Z")

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Pretty obvious to me – I’ve seen the movie plenty of times, and have read and re-read the play. But I didn’t know about the second one cited by **Zeldar** , since I’ve never seen it.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/9 "2015-09-25T14:48:21Z")

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Okay. Seeing that we have a few guesser/player types but (so far) only my questions, I’ll add **Crazy Guggenheim** for the older crowd (as if the other names weren’t already! 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/10 "2015-09-25T15:44:00Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Okay. Seeing that we have a few guesser/player types but (so far) only my questions, I’ll add **Crazy Guggenheim** for the older crowd (as if the other names weren’t already! 🙂 )

Piece o’Cake

character on **The Jackie Gleason Show** , a drunk who came into the bar tended by Gleason’s character. I can’t recall the actor’s name right now, though, without Googling.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/11 "2015-09-25T15:48:45Z")

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Jackie Gleason.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/12 "2015-09-25T16:01:51Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Piece o’Cake
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> character on **The Jackie Gleason Show** , a drunk who came into the bar tended by Gleason’s character. I can’t recall the actor’s name right now, though, without Googling.

You said, “I can’t recall the actor’s name right now, though, without Googling.”

Aha! I can’t either! My stab will be (until I Google to be sure): Somebody Fontaine – I’ll go with **Frank**

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/13 "2015-09-26T05:41:44Z")

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Damn! That’s right! :smack:

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manfredi-and-johnson-tegwar/732453/14 "2015-09-26T06:03:58Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> You said, “I can’t recall the actor’s name right now, though, without Googling.”
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> Aha! I can’t either! My stab will be (until I Google to be sure): Somebody Fontaine – I’ll go with **Frank**

Yes. He had a remarkable singing voice. As part of the routine, he would first tell jokes in the idiot Crazy Guggenheim persona, then Joe would ask him to do a song, which he would perform beautifully.
