# manhattan & Gaudere sitting on a tree. . . **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356 "2003-10-14T12:44:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/61 "2003-10-15T03:46:21Z")
I guess they think of it more like a discount on a family-pack of SOCKS, diapers, or enemas, as available at Sam’s Club. ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/62 "2003-10-15T04:10:45Z")
**Lynn,** while the whole thing does leave a bitter taste in my mouth, I realize now you were only doing your job. And I regret implying otherwise. My apologies. And **Scylla,** if you think I’m an extension of my father’s will, I can’t wait to see the look on your font when your daughter hits her teens. There’s a series of old Animaniacs episodes with a teenage character named Katie Kaboom. I suggest you research them, and dread your future. I’d also like to apologize for this inadvertant hijack. Shouldn’t we be pitting **manny** right now? Or at least **sailor?** C’mon! Look alive, people! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/63 "2003-10-15T06:44:34Z")
Quick! We need a GPS system and professional cartographer in here STAT if there’s any hope of steering this thread back to its original path! ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/64 "2003-10-15T06:51:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by sailor > manhattan was the first one to insult with the word “liar”. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by manhattan \* > You are factually incorrect. Anyone can go to the original thread and see you were the first one and the only one to use the word liar. I never called you a liar. Since you do not believe you did anything wrong in that thread let me say I believe you are an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/65 "2003-10-15T07:14:12Z")
Well, whatever happened to this thread is fine with me. Can we give Castro the good exploding cigar? It sucks having to detour around Cuba on every western Caribbean cruise. It seems ridiculous that such a goon could live a short boat ride from Key West. Why don’t brutal despots get rare genetic disorders? Just once. ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/66 "2003-10-15T07:28:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Why don’t brutal despots get rare genetic disorders? Just once. Because the U.S. knows better than to put a sick despot in power. Zing! (before I get piled-on, I should point out that I don’t actually blame the U.S. for every brutal dictator in the world, just some of them.) ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/67 "2003-10-15T07:44:08Z")
Wait! We can’t be responsible for [Batista](http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/batista.htm) and Castro, can we? :eek: If so, then we should go down there, overthrow Castro, and put Bremer in charge. We’re already screwed no matter who we support. ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/68 "2003-10-15T08:57:49Z")
I’m with you on this one. Perhaps Bremer the dictator would become a brutal dictator (don’t they all?), but at least he’ll be **our** brutal dictator. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/69 "2003-10-15T09:19:15Z")
Stop picking on Manhattan as well. Gaudere and Manhattan. Stop picking on both of them. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/70 "2003-10-15T10:31:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by manhattan \* > You escalated it, **sailor**. You. Like you always do. I didn’t dish out anything that you haven’t done yourself dozens and dozens of times. Can’t take what you dish out? Here, have a Hertz donut. Go read the fucking thread. the _only_ one to post any insults is you. The only one to call anyone any names is you. Again, saying “that is a lie” has always been within bounds of GD as it is considered an attack on the argument, not on the poster. You know that full well. The insult you used is well outside the bounds of GD and of basic decency. \>\> I didn’t dish out anything that you haven’t done yourself dozens and dozens of times. Now I _am_ calling you a liar. Please show where I have dished out insults of the caliber of the one you used. I would have been banned long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/71 "2003-10-15T10:53:28Z")
Sailor I said to stop bashing Manhattan. Are you [cognitively handicapped](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=514508#post514508)? ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/72 "2003-10-15T11:01:40Z")
Wow, **Lib**. You remembered a random insult from _over two years ago_?? Got any dirt on me? pan ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/73 "2003-10-15T11:02:41Z")
My mistake. Make that over _three_ years ago. I forgot what year this was. ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/74 "2003-10-15T11:04:23Z")
**Lib** , he has a valid complaint, moreso because the accused is a mod and should know better. Why should he stop bashing Manhattan? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/75 "2003-10-15T11:13:07Z")
For the same reason that he shouldn’t bash a bear for shitting in the woods. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/76 "2003-10-15T11:57:06Z")
**Manhattan** says **sailor** promotes and defends pedophilia. If there is a more reprehensible slur I am hard pressed to come up with it. Thus far, he has shown no intent to apologize and make amends for this repugnant display of contempt, and would rather bicker as to who first called who a “liar”. Thus he reveals himself to be a thermonuclear asshole. That said, I don’t think friend **Sailor** should have dragged **Gaudere** into this pitting. While I agree that the rebuke was far too mild for the offense, that’s pretty small potatoes. Calling someone a proponent of baby-fucking? If that isn’t plopping a turd in the punchbowl, I don’t know what qualifies. Some of you are quite content to let him get away with it. Standards of conduct vary, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/77 "2003-10-15T12:12:30Z")
**Lib** apparently has a problem with moderators in general. **Lib** has also, apparently, stopped taking his medication. Again. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/78 "2003-10-15T12:52:44Z")
My goodness, I wasn’t even aware I had been here three years already! How time flies when you’re having fun! manhattan said > [@](#): > > I didn’t dish out anything that you haven’t done yourself dozens and dozens of times. He is saying I have called people insults of the caliber of being **pro-child-prostitution** “dozens and dozens of times” . I am sorry but “cognitively handicapped” does not come to the same level. Not even close. And let us look at the circumstances. A post of mine was being misinterpreted and I was being accused of being a racist. The moderator agreed my post was being misrepresented but told me not to use those words. Not quite the same situation. And that’s one, not dozens and dozens. Three years ago. Wow. \>\> Lib has also, apparently, stopped taking his medication. Again. There’s definitely something weird about his posts here. ::backs away slowly:: **elucidator** , I agree with you and if you read my posts in this thread you will see I am not complaining about Gaudere at all. I am not asking for any explanation or anything. I know I could not do her job if you paid me. The main reason I put both names in the title was just because those are the persons involved. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/79 "2003-10-15T13:38:38Z")
All of you, stop picking on each other. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/80 "2003-10-15T13:56:11Z")
Ok, but we can all agree that Thermonuclear Asshole would, indeed, make a fine band name correct? Seriously though, **Libertarian** , you are acting a bit strange. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356.md?page=5)