# manhattan & Gaudere sitting on a tree. . . **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356 "2003-10-14T12:44:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![mazirian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@mazirian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazirian)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/81 "2003-10-15T14:00:11Z")
**Michael Ellis** , stop picking your nose! You’ll make it bleed again! ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/82 "2003-10-15T14:03:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*All of you, stop picking on each other. \*\* Now you’re picking on the people picking on each other. Stop that. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/83 "2003-10-15T14:42:32Z")
Stop picking on **Libertarian**! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/84 "2003-10-15T15:35:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\ ***Lib** apparently has a problem with moderators in general. > > **Lib** has also, apparently, stopped taking his medication. Again. \*\* Thanks, Lynn. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/85 "2003-10-15T16:53:34Z")
This is like watching your grown siblings bitch slapping and wrestling each other down to the kitchen floor at Thanksgiving. It’s ugly and pointless at this juncture. Would some mod do a mercy killing and cap this thread in the head so we can move on. ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/86 "2003-10-15T20:47:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by Desmostylus_ > > \*\*Lib apparently has a problem with moderators in general. > > > > Lib has also, apparently, stopped taking his medication. Again.\*\* > > \*\*Thanks, Lynn. \*\* Am I missing something here? Or is this as much of a non-sequitor as it seems? Whatever the case, I think the “stopped taking his meds” accusations are completely insensitive and a bit over-the-top. Even if he has, it’s none of our damn business, and we should be sensitive to that, **especially** if he requires meds. C’mon folks, aren’t we supposed to be the compassionate wing? Unless, of course, these comments are intended as genuine worry over another’s well-being. If that’s the case, I just think the worry could be better presented. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/87 "2003-10-15T21:06:24Z")
**WWW** , **Lib** ’s comment was directed at **Lynn** for inaugurating the latest round of that particular rhetorical gambit. Although Lynn’s original remark was (I believe) offered sincerely out of friendly concern, the comment has since been used as a barb and a put-down. [sub]FWIW, Lib, I look back fondly on many of our past civil, sane and stimulating discussions, and look forward to having some more just like 'em at some point.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/88 "2003-10-15T21:09:31Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by Mr. B in **gobear** ’s [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217490)_ > > [perspective] I have the sad distinction of owning the **[mother of all](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=4087546#post4087546)** med threads. [/perspective] > > > [@](#): > > > > _by Lynn Bodoni_ > > And on a personal note, go get your meds adjusted. This is not an insult. I’ve had to have MY meds adjusted from time to time, so I know what it’s like. > > Humbly, I submit **Lynn** might wish to make some kind of proclamation about the use of _meds ad hominem_. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/89 "2003-10-15T21:15:59Z")
**Xeno!** Great to see you back! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/90 "2003-10-15T21:32:08Z")
Well now, _that_ was a pleasant greeting! Nice to see you, too! (I’ve been around, just not posting much.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/91 "2003-10-15T22:15:00Z")
Note to self: inquire of **Minty** or **Dewey** as to the expense and legal complications involved in the process of disowning children. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/92 "2003-10-15T22:23:47Z")
Take it from me, it’s quite easy. And revocable. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/93 "2003-10-15T22:34:03Z")
Are they still permitted to follow you around and pester you for food and money? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/94 "2003-10-15T22:38:07Z")
Only after a 34 or better on the ACT. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/95 "2003-10-16T00:09:12Z")
Ok. Let’s see. Manhattan should apologize to **sailor**. I know that, you (dear reader) probably know that. Still, I think it’s worth pointing out that sailor appeared to accuse Manhattan of lying about 4-5 times in a single post. Soon after, Manhattan obviously blew a gasket. Quotes, from a single **sailor** post, all directed out Manhattan: "That is a lie. Not true. …Big lie. … Lie. … Blatant lie. Where did you get this information? Please provide evidence. " While I in general applaud the, “Please provide evidence” bit (subject to constraints of practicality and in this case board restrictions) it sure looked like you were challenging Manhattan’s honesty. Which rather distracts us from the topic of your thread, doesn’t it? Still, there are spiritual conclusions that can be drawn from this imbroglio: Just because **sailor** was being a dirty-rat-bastard, doesn’t free Manhattan from the moral obligation of apologizing to him. Whatever sailor did, Manhattan’s accusation (backed up with insinuations, IIRC BTW) was over the top. The moral, boys and girls, is that you have to be _extra_ careful with your words when you’re around people who are acting like dirty-rats. Otherwise, you may be obliged to suffer the humility and agony of apologizing to them, dirty-rat-bastards though they may be. Oh and FWIW, although I’ve heard assertions of **sailor** ’s misbehavior before, I’ve tended (in the past) to think they were overblown. Not so in this case. [sub]Of course sailor could, at his option, retract the _ad hominem_ component of his orignal response to Manhattan. Should that happened, flowbark requests an automatic retraction of the “rat-bastatd” label.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/96 "2003-10-16T00:45:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Thanks, Lynn. \*\* That’s a bit unfair to Lynn. In that thread, it was me that first raised the subject: > [@](#): > > Now, my mind reading skills. **Lib** is thinking: > > “Musn’t take pills: Doctor is evil. SDMB: Liberal Communist Nazis. Oooh, colors! Must resist mind control. Aluminum foil. QANTAS.” ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/97 "2003-10-16T00:54:52Z")
I’m an excellent driver. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/98 "2003-10-16T00:58:56Z")
It is of the utmost importance that the aluminum foil is folded _longitudanally_ in relation to the magnetic axis. Otherwise, the ability to block telepathic waves is impaired, and unreliable. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/99 "2003-10-16T01:06:40Z")
I’m gonna let ya’ in on a little secret, Ray. K-Mart sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356/100 "2003-10-16T01:08:40Z")
And well spotted, **Coldie**. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-gaudere-sitting-on-a-tree/207356.md?page=6)