# manhattan has resigned **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 25, 2005, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376 "2005-05-25T02:31:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/21 "2005-05-25T11:58:59Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > My mindset stagnates when my worldview is **always validated as correct.** (Bolding mine) Stagnation shouldn’t be a problem for you then… 😛 I’m sorry **Manny** won’t be around. Best wishes. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/22 "2005-05-25T12:04:38Z")
I hope he reconsiders. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/23 "2005-05-25T12:17:11Z")
**manhattan** is a class act. In resigning he has left a parting message to the posters of the SDMB that I can only hope will result in a little more respect for posters whose views differ from that of the vast majority. ---
**Author:** ![TwoTrouts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@TwoTrouts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoTrouts)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/24 "2005-05-25T12:37:45Z")
He will be missed! This board needs people like **manhattan** , those who can intelligently articulate their views and back them up with credible information. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/25 "2005-05-25T12:41:46Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > (Bolding mine) > > Stagnation shouldn’t be a problem for you then… 😛 . Grooooooan! 🙂 I just meant that a marketplace of ideology is a good thing. Sure, the viewpoint of the right is underrepresented here, but then again, so are those of libertarians, evangelical Christians, Orthodox Jews, and those outside of the United States. The SDMB would be a far less interesting place if most members were liberal white agnostic Americans. I wish **manhattan** well, and hope he’ll find the sense of community online that he seeks. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/26 "2005-05-25T13:32:40Z")
[QUOTE=elmwood The SDMB would be a far less interesting place if most members were liberal white agnostic Americans. I wish **manhattan** well, and hope he’ll find the sense of community online that he seeks.[/QUOTE] Hmmm 1. most members are white 2. most members are liberal 3. most members are American I’m not sure about the agnostic part. It would suggest to me therefore that you wouldn’t want to see more agnostics represented on the board for fear that the SDMB would become “a far less interesting place”. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/27 "2005-05-25T13:43:32Z")
Best wishes **manhattan**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/28 "2005-05-25T14:17:46Z")
Thank you for your outstanding service and for your posts, **manhattan**. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/29 "2005-05-25T14:31:54Z")
I wish him the best too. But, how do you retire from a message board? And why would you? In the statement it says that he didn’t feel it was a comfortable place for conservative posters. True, but him leaving makes it all the more unbalanced and less comfortable. This is the wrong move on his part. Like **Elmwood** said, do you really want to be in a place where everyone shares your views? ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/30 "2005-05-25T14:51:55Z")
> [@roger thornhill](#): > > I mean no comprendo: “Best wishes that both personally and professional never find yourself long and wrong nor see credit ratings downgraded”, senor. **Manhattan,** IRL, works in the financial world. Those terms mean something along those lines. I’ll miss **Manhattan**. I didn’t always agree with him and I thought he presented his cases well. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/31 "2005-05-25T15:00:26Z")
I didn’t always agree with him, but he usually had good, solid arguments. He helped keep some of us goddless liberals in line. His contributions shall be missed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/32 "2005-05-25T15:08:45Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > Grooooooan! 🙂 > > I just meant that …\ I know very well what you meant. But what you actually _wrote_; who could resist? ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/33 "2005-05-25T15:21:09Z")
Dang. You’re a class act, G. Best of luck to you. Please don’t give up on non-virtual meetings–the beer is always cold at the Ace Bar, and the bagels always warm in the Village. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/34 "2005-05-25T15:24:51Z")
It is indeed a difficult place for minority views, not minority in the general population, but just here. There is a certain avalanche effect to the pile-ons. After sufficient repetition of tired mantras, perceptions are built out of nothing until sometimes even moderators join in, pacifying the screaming crowds with advice and admonitions to the overwhelmed poster. It is underhanded, really — the tactic of saying that someone is posting an opinion for the purpose of stirring up shit, or to nitpick, or to take over the thread, whatever. It comes to the point where no matter how he responds, he will be attacked: even if all he is doing is drawing attention to the attackers, he is now an attention whore, has a martyr complex, or is hijacking the thread. There is a distinct tendency here to take offense easily but to dish it out readily. I still like the idea I offered sometime back of one-on-one debates. Nobody wins then just by sheer numbers. I wouldn’t be at all surprised this post will be met with exactly what I’m describing here, not because it is a reasonable expectation, but because it is a typical response. I’d like to state my opnion and move on, just like everyone else. Sometimes, I feel a lot like Manhattan. But I hang around anyway in the hopes that opposing views might be heard. But the more the place becomes one-sided, and the more there is of the “don’t let the door” sentiment, the less appealing it becomes. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/35 "2005-05-25T15:30:29Z")
I’m sorry to hear this. Catch ya on the flip side, **manhattan**. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/36 "2005-05-25T15:32:38Z")
It’s an attractive thought - and one that’s lately crossed my mind a few times, truthfully. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/37 "2005-05-25T15:35:30Z")
Hmm. Most of his contributions cointained a few good facts and intelligent arguments, and a whole lot of invective, nearly always along the lines of “liberals are morons”. I suppose if you’re in a minority, and you find your moron accusation being echoed by a crowd back at you, it’s going to feel lonely. But uncomfortable? Seems **Manny** ’s experience here was a comfortable as he wanted to make it, and rebuttals to his arguments no less personalized than his arguments themselves. Not that I’m suggesting Manny acted “inappropriately”. I’d be the last to criticize him for insulting invective. Looks as if he likes to dish it out, but got tired of it being thrown back at him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/38 "2005-05-25T15:36:01Z")
He’ll be missed by me. But I don’t understand the bit about not being “comfortable”. It’s hard to imagine an internet MB that doesn’t have a high noise to signal ratio. You just gotta have a good filter. I hope he reconsiders and comes back. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/39 "2005-05-25T16:36:24Z")
Every time a conservative poster leaves, the Baby Jesus cries. Good on ya **manhattan** -you’ll be missed. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376/40 "2005-05-25T16:46:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > It’s an attractive thought - and one that’s lately crossed my mind a few times, truthfully. God forbid - don’t leave me here by myself (almost)! But, again, I can see the attraction. Calm, rational, intelligent conservatives - like **Bricker** and **Mr. Moto** and **Sam Stone** and others - get exactly the same treatment as any other conservatives. You get sniped at and snarked at and insulted and piled on and misrepresented and trolled at. And any complaint gets exactly what **Liberal** mentioned. The assholes win again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-has-resigned/305376.md?page=3)