# Manhattan is a fuckwad, and Microsoft can suck my dick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757 "2003-05-07T20:51:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/41 "2003-05-08T00:37:41Z")

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This is the forum for venting frustration. GQ is not. You really should know better by now.

And what the fuck is this about:

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> Add to this the fact that I’ve somehow become a very important part of Manhattan’s tiny little world: he’s as obsessed with me as a lover and, flattering though that may be, it’s a bit disturbing to me…

I mean really, how big is your head? Do you have your own orbiting debris field from the collisions of ideas launched from your skull? Do they cause chaos in your brain when chunks come crashing back down?

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**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/42 "2003-05-08T00:38:21Z")

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> **Originally posted by manhattan**  
> _lissener, you are banned from asking any computer related questions on this message board, whether they have to do with Microsoft products or not. Further, you are banned from posting to any computer-related thread in GQ, again whether it is discussing Microsoft products or not. This includes entirely theoretical discussions, historic questions, everything. Turing question? Too bad – you’re banned from it. Same with everything from ENAIC to AI._

Wow. This is, like, _so_ Free Kevin!

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/43 "2003-05-08T00:41:06Z")

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Manhattan:

You know, you should really talk to me before you do these things. I would have suggested that you simply change the “member” tag under his name to “Bill Gates’ Bitch-Boy.”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/44 "2003-05-08T00:43:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by neuroman \*  
> \*\*This is a new and interesting approach - selective posting restrictions? Whatever happened to simply “step out of line again and we’ll ban you?” \*\*

Not really. **handy** , for example, is forbidden from posting in medical threads, I think.

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**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/45 "2003-05-08T00:49:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> \*\*Manhattan:
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> You know, you should really talk to me before you do these things. I would have suggested that you simply change the “member” tag under his name to “Bill Gates’ Bitch-Boy.” \*\*

That was my first instinct. However 1) My moderatorial superpowers won’t let me do that – custom titles can be meted out only by Administrators and 2) It turns out that Bill Gates would have charged us $40 and signed us to some kind of licensing dealie where MSFT would own our immortal souls.

Go figger.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/46 "2003-05-08T01:22:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by manhattan \*  
> \*\*My moderatorial superpowers won’t let me do that \*\*

[sub]Psssssst…use the “F9” key, in combination with “scroll lock” and the shift key.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/47 "2003-05-08T01:37:10Z")

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I don’t have to use Microsoft products if I don’t want to.

::sings _nanny nanny boo boo_ song at **lissener** ::

I don’t use Word except on rare occasion, and never to create my own documents. I don’t use (or even possess) PowerPoint. I don’t generally use Internet Explorer. I don’t use Outlook at all, ever.

I don’t even use Windows except briefly, in emulation, for rare and special projects.

I use Excel by choice. Other spreadsheet programs exist that I could use, but I actually like Excel.

Hey, there is life on computer that isn’t Microsoft-centric. If you don’t want to be forced to immerse yourself in Microsoft’s software, make it a primary objective in your job search.

Hint: get seriously proficient in something Mac- or Linux-centric.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/48 "2003-05-08T01:38:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by manhattan \*  
> It turns out that Bill Gates would have charged us $40 and signed us to some kind of licensing dealie where MSFT would own our immortal souls.

I can knock that down to $20 if you’re willing to participate in our ImmortalSoulXP Beta. 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/49 "2003-05-08T01:48:57Z")

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> Psssssst…use the “F9” key, in combination with “scroll lock” and the shift key.

Am I the only one who actually tried that, just to see what it would do?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/50 "2003-05-08T01:56:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Man With The Golden Gun \*  
> \*\*Am I the only one who actually tried that, just to see what it would do? \*\*

And what happened?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/51 "2003-05-08T02:11:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Not really. **handy** , for example, is forbidden from posting in medical threads, I think. \*\*

Sigh…if only this could be extended to all other threads that have the potential of a factual answer given his “Throw out the first Google hit he finds, _regardless_ of relevance” posting style.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/52 "2003-05-08T02:24:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*And what happened? \*\*

I’m pretty sure the Scroll Lock light on his keyboard blinked, otherwise probably nothing.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/53 "2003-05-08T02:30:05Z")

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Nothing happend. I tried that also.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/54 "2003-05-08T02:58:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RandMcnally \*  
> \*\*Nothing happend. I tried that also. \*\*

Yes. I know. Yet another cruel hoax perpetrated by Ike upon us all.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/55 "2003-05-08T03:41:40Z")

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I feel so betrayed!

Yes, betrayed. By the mods. I mean, I trust them to be wise and all-knowing and good, and here they are, making snarky little comments in little type, making us all\* try silly key combinations in the vain hope that…something…might happen.

DAMN YOU, MODS! You’re all a bunch of jack-booted thugs! I hate you all and will soon start a Pit thread to this effect, because the two hundred previous Pit threads about how horrible you all are all put together cannot equal my wrath, anger, fury, &c, &c.

In short, you all suck. Especially Manhattan, who’s a fuckwad with hot fudge and whipped cream and nuts and a cherry on top. (Mmmmm…)

\*No, I didn’t actually try it.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/56 "2003-05-08T03:42:44Z")

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Does this ban on computer related questions mean that I can’t answer the OP of the original thread? It’s really quite easy. I either carry my custom toolbars on a floppy or email them to myself at new sites.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/57 "2003-05-08T04:13:36Z")

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I haven’t read any of this thread, and very little of the first linked thread. But I have read enough to comment on something.

I think you are _more_ likely to get help (in all but microsoft newsgroups) if you criticise the product.

And if you go to a microsoft newsgroup and ask - weither you criticise or not you’ll probably get some pretty weird and unhelpful answers from the MVPs. I might be generalizing, but all I ever got from MVPs was confused ramblings or defensiveness and always EXTREME pedantry.  
It is common for otherwise intelligent and technically minded people to come completely stuck in a Microsoft product. so one of the early posts in your GQ was completely uncalled for (the one where someone said “I like this, someone criticises it, and then asks for help with something a child could use”. WTF!?)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/58 "2003-05-08T04:22:32Z")

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Quite frankly, **lissener** , since you’ve stated that

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> I’ve accumulated more than 4,000 hours with PowerPoint, and maybe 2,000 with Word.

and having worked in a place where _every fucking e-mail they sent out was a PowerPoint_ I rate someone who’s spent more hours with PP, than Word on the same level as you rate Bill Gates. PP is annoying fucking program and I have _never_ seen an instance where the presentation or e-mail was _improved_ by the use of PP. Personally, if I’m _ever_ in charge of a corporation, I will publicly _fire anyone who dares use a PP presentation in my presence!_

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/59 "2003-05-08T05:21:45Z")

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Why does this rant seem so familiar?

…(consults the search function)…

Oh, [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=139811) is why!

Some folks are just slow learners, I guess.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-is-a-fuckwad-and-microsoft-can-suck-my-dick/173757/60 "2003-05-08T05:47:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \*  
> \*\*Personally, if I’m _ever_ in charge of a corporation, I will publicly _fire anyone who dares use a PP presentation in my presence!_ \*\*

I like PowerPoint. Because I know that the lights will be going down soon, and I can nap for a few minutes.

e-mail? _shrug_

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