# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 111
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2201 "2024-04-23T17:19:00Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > trump doesn’t find comfort in his family like most people Psychopath. I mean, his family is _almost_ as bad as he is, but I can’t think of a single person I know who doesn’t have a close friend or a family member they rely on for emotional support in times of trouble. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I continue to be amazed that jury selection went so fast; They didn’t fight with anyone who said they were too busy or felt bias, just told them to close the door on the way out. I’m sure that saved a LOT of time. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2202 "2024-04-23T17:19:25Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I wonder why none of Trump’s family have appeared in court . . . This is not Melania, and apparently other Trump family members agree with her: [Stand By Your Man](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AM-b8P1yj9w) When the trial doesn’t have to do with adultery, they’ll probably show up off and on. EDIT: The great, I say without irony, Tammy Wynette did not mean to excuse adultery. I think the song is more about your husband getting in a barroom brawl. She wouldn’t have gone to her husband’s hush money trial either. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2203 "2024-04-23T17:24:07Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > > > I continue to be amazed that jury selection went so fast; > > They didn’t fight with anyone who said they were too busy or felt bias, just told them to close the door on the way out. I’m sure that saved a LOT of time. Good point. I’ve proofread enough jury selection transcripts to know that often judges will press prospective jurors on such jury-duty-avoidance claims and be fairly stringent on what arguments will be accepted. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2204 "2024-04-23T17:30:51Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > “PERemptory”! Thank you! That grates on me every time. Most welcome! It makes me shudder, too. ---
**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2205 "2024-04-23T17:33:22Z")
I wonder if Trump’s lawyers tried to get family to come to the trial. It seems to me that having family present is seen as something jurors want to see. Also, on a more practical note, it might be really awkward for one of his attorneys to hand him a bottle of Gas-X and instruct him to take it. Much easier for a family member to do it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2206 "2024-04-23T17:35:25Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > Also, on a more practical note, it might be really awkward for one of his attorneys to hand him a bottle of Gas-X and instruct him to take it. Much easier for a family member to do it. I think his issue with bodily smells has a more solid origin. What they need to do is have his lawyers pinch their nostrils to signal the judge to grant a diaper change recess. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2207 "2024-04-23T17:36:35Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > > [@rocking\_chair](#): > > > > trump doesn’t find comfort in his family like most people > > Psychopath. I mean, his family is _almost_ as bad as he is, but I can’t think of a single person I know who doesn’t have a close friend or a family member they rely on for emotional support in times of trouble. Well, when your own wife hates your guts … One of the things that came out in the Mar-a-Lago raid is that Trump and Melania have separate bedrooms, and I’m not sure that they (the bedrooms) are even particularly close. One is an unprincipled psychopath and the other is an unprincipled gold-digger. I doubt that Trump has been emotionally close to anyone in his life. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2208 "2024-04-23T17:38:20Z")
when your defence lawyer tries to say you are a family man, perhaps you should have family somewhere in the court room. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2209 "2024-04-23T17:48:31Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > I wonder if Trump’s lawyers tried to get family to come to the trial. Seriously, now you have me wondering. Normally, the stand by your man look is good in court. But these jurors do not like Donald Trump, and I doubt they have a good opinion of any Trump family member. If they acquit, It will be by ignoring their feelings about Trumpworld, so why remind them of the rest of the Trump crew? Maybe Trump’s lawyers told them to all stay away. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2210 "2024-04-23T17:59:17Z")
I don’t know how you can separate “TrumpWorld” from Trump himself though. He is the black hole at the center of that galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2211 "2024-04-23T18:13:30Z")
trial is done for today. back at 9:30 am on thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2212 "2024-04-23T18:15:14Z")
Huh. I thought they were going to try to go until 4:30 today–did I misunderstand, or did something come up? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2213 "2024-04-23T18:15:54Z")
today they stopped at 2pm for passover. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2214 "2024-04-23T18:24:23Z")
HIs rambling screed on the way out the door was seriously pathetic. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. SAD! AND UNFAIR! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2215 "2024-04-23T18:25:31Z")
Oh, right–thank you! ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2216 "2024-04-23T18:28:02Z")
He and the lawyers are afraid Melania might drag the coat out of storage. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2217 "2024-04-23T18:40:43Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > HIs rambling screed on the way out the door was seriously pathetic. This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. SAD! AND UNFAIR! Do you have a transcript? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2218 "2024-04-23T18:48:02Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > But these jurors do not like Donald Trump, … We don’t actually know this. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2219 "2024-04-23T18:52:44Z")
No. But it’s all Biden’s fault. And no one has ever been subject to a Gag order before, apparently. Same old Bullshit, really. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/2220 "2024-04-23T18:57:09Z")
It’s NOT FAIR that he can’t threaten witnesses or the jury members. NOT. FAIR. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=110) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=112)