# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024)

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**Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/521 "2023-03-30T22:43:38Z")

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Jesus, I want to go out and pick up a bottle of champagne, but I have to work in the morning. Dammit my life gets complicated at times! Any suggestions?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/522 "2023-03-30T22:44:12Z")

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That cough doesn’t sound at all good. You coming down with something??

[hint, hint]

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/523 "2023-03-30T22:45:03Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > [x.com](https://mobile.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1641554836301787137)
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> LOL!! 😁 🤣
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> That, incidentally, was posted on his TruthSocial account at 8:09 AM yesterday, March 29th, probably while sitting on the toilet. I wonder how his awesome respect for grand juries is holding out now, a mere day and a half later. 😁

I can’t help wondering whether the Orange Peril’s asinine tweet affected the timing of the indictment. That is, Bragg may have been planning to call for an indictment after the break but did it now, either to a) keep the tweet from festering for a month, or b) give His Nibs a great big middle finger. Works for me either way.

And his response calls to mind the “No decrease in the chocolate ration” → “Expect a decrease in the chocolate ration” → “Chocolate ration increased!” sequence in _1984_. Anyone who can reconcile it with yesterday’s tweet is a doubleplusgood doublethinker.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/524 "2023-03-30T22:46:55Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Does this mean he will be arrested? Like…in cuffs and so forth?

Bryan Tyler Cohen says it will be 6 months to a year before a trial date (in the first minute of this video). “If you’re worried about things moving too quickly to follow… you’ve got time.”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0ak-7jayMg4/maxresdefault.jpg "BREAKING: TRUMP INDICTED IN NEW YORK") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ak-7jayMg4)

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/525 "2023-03-30T22:47:30Z")

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My fear is they will attempt to put Trump on trial and something will happen and there will be mistrial.

Then they will have to decide whether to try him again and it would NOT surprise if the second attempt results in a mistrial as well,

What happens after THAT I am not sure but I fully expect this to be a total circus.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/526 "2023-03-30T22:47:54Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Jesus, I want to go out and pick up a bottle of champagne, but I have to work in the morning. Dammit my life gets complicated at times! Any suggestions?

Get a split of champagne, perhaps?

> **[What Are Champagne Splits?](https://www.delightedcooking.com/what-are-champagne-splits.htm)**
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> Champagne splits are small bottles of champagne, usually a half or a quarter of a standard bottle. Pricing for a split isn't based...

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/527 "2023-03-30T22:48:54Z")

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I’ve thought the situation over, and I’ll toast it with the beer I have in the fridge, and pick up a bottle tomorrow after work. I think this is the most mature decision I have ever made, but I appreciate your suggestion!  
ETA: And yours, Spoons!

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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/528 "2023-03-30T22:51:02Z")

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[Ha-ha!](https://www.flickr.com/photos/198004255@N03/shares/07H6Z12HB5) My husband is shopping for champagne as we speak!

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/529 "2023-03-30T22:51:38Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1641560639385780225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1641560639385780225%7Ctwgr%5E70ad1ff17b3ca826bb2f235bcfe8f4ce3a391328%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Ftrump-new-york-grand-jury-indictment-live-updates-214723895.html>

2023 isn’t, in fact, an election year. I don’t think there’s any such thing as a “campaign year”, but perhaps in mistaken.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/530 "2023-03-30T22:52:15Z")

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It was just mentioned on CNN that he’s already sending out fundraising alerts. He is nothing if not predictable.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/531 "2023-03-30T22:55:48Z")

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And in Separation of Powers and Federalist news:

> <https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/status/1641574001934757889>

TL;DR: Kevin McCarthy loses what’s left of his shit.

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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/532 "2023-03-30T23:00:08Z")

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Our system of justice is SACRED!!! 🤪

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/533 "2023-03-30T23:10:15Z")

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If it’s “third world prosecutorial misconduct”, it’s only because Trump turned this country into a third world hellhole.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/534 "2023-03-30T23:15:43Z")

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I think that grand jury should take a break, and have some champagne.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/535 "2023-03-30T23:19:22Z")

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So when is Pomerantz going to grovel for a spot back on the prosecution team?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/536 "2023-03-30T23:29:13Z")

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Apparently the DA’s office wanted an arrest tomorrow, but the Secret Service needed more time to coordinate the move.

> **[Manhattan’s DA wanted a Friday Trump arrest. Trump’s team said no.](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/30/manhattan-da-wanted-friday-trump-arrest-00089853)**
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> Secret Service needed more time to prepare, according to the ex-president’s legal team.

ETA: we’ve been wondering what the logistics of charging, arresting, etc. an ex-president look like. Well, here we go. From a purely academic standpoint, everything that comes from this point forward will be fascinating.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/537 "2023-03-30T23:38:04Z")

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“Secret Service needed more time to prepare” i.e. champagne!

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I knew I was chilling that bottle of champagne for _something_. 😉

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/539 "2023-03-30T23:40:06Z")

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I’m saving mine for when Jack Smith drops the hammer.

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I can totally understand that choice!!

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