# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 272
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5421 "2024-05-30T22:18:31Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Imagine Biden saying “I’ll be happy to debate my convicted felon rival soon…” “…assuming we can work around his many court dates.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5422 "2024-05-30T22:19:26Z")
[CNN.com](http://CNN.com) has: \* 3 min ago[Trump donation portal appears to be down](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/h_15647d4e0fcfaa28bbb3311e16eecae0) Likely because (sadly) MAGA types are all trying to donate at once. This information will help protect walls from thrown ketchup, at least. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5423 "2024-05-30T22:19:42Z")
Mine is eye on the sparrow. Don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5424 "2024-05-30T22:20:21Z")
I find those two thoughts contradictory next to each other. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5425 "2024-05-30T22:20:34Z")
Bragg to speak around 6:30 pm eastern tonight. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5426 "2024-05-30T22:20:36Z")
From Axios: > … > What he’s [Trump] saying: “This was a disgrace. This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. … They wouldn’t give us a venue change,” Trump said, referring to his unsuccessful efforts to move the trial of out New York City. > > - “The real verdict is gonna be Nov. 5 by the people, and they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here,” Trump continued. > - Trump claimed, without evidence, that the legal proceedings were orchestrated by the Biden administration to hurt him politically. “We’ll fight to the end and we’ll win.” > - “We didn’t do a thing wrong. I’m a very innocent man. It’s OK, I’m fighting for our country, I’m fighting for our Constitution,” Trump said. > > … The most innocent man who ever lived. Innocent as a newborn kitten. **More** innocent than a newborn kitten. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5427 "2024-05-30T22:22:05Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I wonder if Judge Cannon is going to hunker down and become even more committed to protecting him? She doesn’t have to worry about setting a precedent about former presidents any more. This could open the floodgates on his other cases. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5428 "2024-05-30T22:22:23Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > It’s incredibly rude and certainly unwise but Merchan has been the epitome of professional the whole time. I don’t see him adding to the sentence over somebody exercising their First Amendment rights. Nobody likes being convicted and I’m sure they’ve all seen their share of people grousing about judge, jury, and everybody else in the aftermath of a verdict But as understand it part of the sentencing hearing is showing contrition, which I’m sure Trump will do _during the hearing_. Can the prosecution play these tapes of him being very not contrite to counter that? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5429 "2024-05-30T22:22:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The most innocent man who ever lived. Innocent as a newborn kitten. **More** innocent than a newborn kitten. More innocent than a newborn kitten who ministered to the poor in India, even. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5430 "2024-05-30T22:26:23Z")
There is singing on the streets of New York City. It looks like “hey, hey, hey, goodbye! ---
**Author:** ![Kelby2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ebca7d/32.png) [@Kelby2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby2)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5431 "2024-05-30T22:26:36Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Justice was done. > > And now Judge Merchan gets to sentence the motherfucker. > > “What was that you kept saying about my daughter, Mr Trump?” Boom. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5432 "2024-05-30T22:26:37Z")
Mother Purr-esa? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5433 "2024-05-30T22:28:09Z")
If nobody else has already mentioned it, I recall in the E Jean Carroll case how much he was complaining about the crooked judge deciding the case and why was he not getting a jury trial. Well Donny, you got yer jury trial now, so shaddup. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5434 "2024-05-30T22:28:29Z")
From Will Stancil: “Trump should drop out immediately. He is a convicted felon, he faces massive future legal jeopardy, it’s completely inappropriate for a man like him to run for president of the United States. There are other Republicans who can run in his stead. This shouldn’t be debatable.” Copy and paste the above repeatedly for the next 5 months. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5435 "2024-05-30T22:29:18Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Mine is eye on the sparrow _If it be now, 'tis not to come_ _If it be not to come, then it is now_ _If it be not now, yet it will come_ _The readiness is all_ That sparrow? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5436 "2024-05-30T22:29:56Z")
Team Trump: “This is only making him stronger!! You’ll see!!” 😂 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5437 "2024-05-30T22:30:21Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > **More** innocent than a newborn kitten. Kitten toots are absolutely **foul** , so they’ve at least got that in common. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5438 "2024-05-30T22:30:38Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@velomont](#): > > > > As these are verdicts for crimes 15 years ago or so, no Republicans or independents will care. > > 2016 was 15 years ago? > > I better fix my clocks… Forget it Ata. It’s Trump-Town. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5439 "2024-05-30T22:30:56Z")
Do _ **not** _ look at Breitbart. Trust me. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5440 "2024-05-30T22:31:29Z")
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