# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 275
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5481 "2024-05-30T23:51:53Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > I scared a cat at that comment. I scared my cat right off the arm of my chair and into the basement when I read the verdict headline on CNN. He got over it when I fed him. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5482 "2024-05-30T23:53:33Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Am I nuts for thinking the jurors’ lives are in danger from MAGA zealots? No, I mentioned this to my wife as one reason I thought acquittal or hung jury was possible. If they get doxxed, it could get ugly. I’m remembering what that guy did to Pelosi’s husband. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5483 "2024-05-30T23:58:06Z")
I think these 12 just stood up, unafraid, and did their civic duty. At some point, I believe it is now, American citizens will feel free to live Constitutionally regardless of what some deranged Trump sucker might think. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5484 "2024-05-31T00:02:40Z")
Then you would’ve been excused with the jurors who said the same thing, so no problem! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5485 "2024-05-31T00:05:40Z")
Exactly. One of the smartest things Judge Merchan did at the outset of jury selection was to allow any prospective juror who didn’t want to serve on this jury _for any reason_ to be excused. Experienced judges know that you never want a juror on your panel who isn’t willing to be there. They will fuck you up. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5486 "2024-05-31T00:09:31Z")
Perhaps G-d doesn’t hate me after all. Well, perhaps She doesn’t hate me TOO much. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5487 "2024-05-31T00:11:50Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > He might need to hand the company over to Eric. You mean the brains behind the whole operation? /s ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5488 "2024-05-31T00:15:41Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > We also set a motion schedule. > [@griffin1977](#): > > What’s that? > [@Gyrate](#): > > Timetable for bathroom breaks. No, that would be a movement schedule. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5489 "2024-05-31T00:17:28Z")
All I can say is who friggin’ ray. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5490 "2024-05-31T00:20:40Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > One of the smartest things Judge Merchan did at the outset of jury selection was to allow any prospective juror who didn’t want to serve on this jury _for any reason_ to be excused. Yeah, it occurred to me back during the jury selection that the judge was looking specifically for volunteers. (A point made by many here as well I’m sure) I don’t know what that says, but I think it says something. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5491 "2024-05-31T00:22:14Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I think these 12 just stood up, unafraid, and did their civic duty. At some point, I believe it is now, American citizens will feel free to live Constitutionally regardless of what some deranged Trump sucker might think. Agree with this. They (the MAGAs) _want_ us to be afraid. Afraid of what _may_ happen if…That’s all they got - empty threats. Americans, REAL Americans will stand-up to this shit. We’re not effing North Korea where you have to be careful what you say and what you do for fear of pissing off Dear Leader. Screw that! Yeah, there is a non-zero risk some wacked-out MF will stir some shit up with these jurors, but I say F-them - we cannot be afraid to do the right thing. If I were on this jury I would have done my job all the same and yeah, I would probably keep a low profile for a while, but not be afraid. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5492 "2024-05-31T00:22:55Z")
Congratulations to the whole prosecution team. They took on a difficult case with some age on it. They brought a two pronged conspiracy together and convincingly persuaded 12 individuals that felonies occured. Thanks to Pecker and Hope Hicks for their honesty. Thanks also to Stormy and Cohen for enduring blistering personal attacks to get the story out. Thanks to Sleepy Joe for tirelessly orchestrating all aspects of this prosecution between naps. And thanks Donald, for hamstringing the defense; it made things much easier. Almost forgot to thank the mystery witnesses who made themselves scarce dooming the defense. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5493 "2024-05-31T00:27:12Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > If they get doxxed, it could get ugly. I’m remembering what that guy did to Pelosi’s husband. Yes, yesterday Michael Fanone, the Capitol officer who was tased (and whose heart stopped) on 1/6, who had the nerve to say that trump was “authoritarian with a violence fetish” on Tuesday, found his elderly mother’s house [SWAT-ed by a maganut](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mother-jan-6-officer-michael-fanone-swatted-called-trump-authoritarian-rcna154467). ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5494 "2024-05-31T00:28:19Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Thanks to Sleepy Joe for tirelessly orchestrating all aspects of this prosecution between naps. Exactly! Sleepy Joe is so incompetent that his corrupt administration has now successfully prosecuted the most innocentest man in the world. But the bestest, most Presidential Trump administration could not get a single conviction on Hilary. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5495 "2024-05-31T00:36:12Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Thanks to Sleepy Joe for tirelessly orchestrating all aspects of this prosecution between naps. People were so focused on trump and the lawyers that they didn’t spot Biden who was in the courtroom every day disguised as a New York City detective. Occasionally, he sat behind trump disguised as Eric. Even Donnie didn’t notice. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5496 "2024-05-31T00:36:19Z")
My take on it is, yes, I am afraid. And I want to make it so I don’t have to be afraid any more. So I will do my part, whatever it may be, to try to change the world into one where I don’t have to be afraid. And diminishing Trump’s power is part of that. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5497 "2024-05-31T00:38:37Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > We’ve got a Constitution and a few of us, including most judges, actually do take the freedom of speech part seriously. This is a convicted felon we are talking about. The first amendment has limits. Speech acts do affect sentencing. As part of the pre-sentencing investigation, DJT is required to talk to a probation department officer (social worker?) and, unless self-destructive, impress on them why he can be safely allowed in the community with low risk of reoffending. And given his lack of contrition, and that is is running for office again, I think the risk of recidivism, during the next five months or so, is substantial. Is impressing the person writing your pre-sentencing report consistent with saying you were railroaded? I doubt it. The deadline to start the appeals process is 30 days after sentencing. Someone can correct me, but I think the connection of appealing, and the sentencing date, is that before sentencing, a normal recently convicted felon is in the mode of trying to get the lowest sentence possible by, um, basically acting the opposite of the way Donald Trump normally acts. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5498 "2024-05-31T00:54:27Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > At the bottom of the page it linked to: > > [A Handy Guide to Ruffians, Rapscallions, Cads & More | Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/charming-words-for-nasty-people) One of the words is **Gobemouche** Definition: a credulous person; _especially_ one who believes everything he or she hears I propose a new word: **MAGAmouche** Definition: a credulous person; _especially_ one who believes everything he or she hears from Donald Trump ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5499 "2024-05-31T00:56:39Z")
I turned on Fox as the verdicts were still coming out. Almost immediately it was “The crooked judge with Biden pulling his strings” who was behind all this. Bartiromo was going on about how the now- convicted felon was the strongest man she ever met in her entire life and how he would persevere through this sham. I couldn’t take too much of it, though. Seriously, how anyone who could use Fox as their main source of news is beyond me. That’s all I need to know about a person to consider them a political moron, ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5500 "2024-05-31T00:59:35Z")
I’ll have whatever Michael Cohen is drinking tonight! I’m sure it’s good stuff! 😃 > [@MikeF](#): > > I turned on Fox as the verdicts were still coming out. Almost immediately it was “The crooked judge with Biden pulling his strings” who was behind all this. Moments after the verdict, the CNN headline was “Trump found guilty on all counts”. The Fox headline? “Trump blasts judge and jury”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=274) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=276)