# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024)

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**Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\
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He just raised $53 millions dollars in the aftermath of the verdict.

> **[Trump campaign announces $53 mn raised after conviction](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-announces-35-mln-151257823.html)**
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> Donald Trump's campaign said Friday it had raised nearly $53 million in online small-dollar donations after he was convicted in his New York hush money trial, boasting that the verdict had galvanized his support "like never before."Calling the...

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Has anybody spotted the Gang of Clones lately?

When you play the Gang of Clones, you whine or you dye.

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> [@hajario](#):
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> He just raised $53 millions dollars in the aftermath of the verdict.

To the guy who promised to self fund his campaigns. Anyway, money doesn’t directly translate to votes, especially when a lot of the money is going to pay lawyers and court fines.

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> especially when a lot of the money is going to pay lawyers and court fines.

Why pay the lawyers? They made him lose the case! /s

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Anyway, money doesn’t directly translate to votes, especially when a lot of the money is going to pay lawyers and court fines.

The fact that he was able to raise that much money in a few days indicates something.

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The fact that he was able to raise that much money in a few days indicates something .

It certainly does. His deplorable supporters are pissed off and willing to send him money to prove it. A million assholes sending him $50 each isn’t going to change anything.

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The fact that he was able to raise that much money in a few days indicates something.

Yes, assuming it’s true, it indicates that approximately 0.3% of the US population sent him an average of around $50. No one disputes that he’s the head of a cult.

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> [@hajario](#):
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> He just raised $53 millions dollars in the aftermath of the verdict.

Do we believe this figure?

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Sorta ninja’d by @wolfpup

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Do we believe this figure?

They’ll be releasing the verification in two weeks.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5690 "2024-06-01T01:59:21Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Do we believe this figure?

I think in Trump’s Mar-a-Lago fundraiser, the figure that they immediately claimed was raised, $34 million?, included pledges to donate, in addition to actual money. I don’t know if the actual number has been made public yet.

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I hope he raises a billion. Carroll and the State of New York can use the cash.

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Is his campaign being run by Cloud Imperium Games, the people behind “Star Citizen”? 😆

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I hope he raises a billion. Carroll and the State of New York can use the cash.

Can those funds be mixed?

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So long as you select the dropdown option for “legal expense” on the balance sheet, yes.

(too soon?)

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’m watching a guy on NBC holding a “Free Father Theresa” sign wailing and screaming"

The sign I saw said, “FREE FATTER THERESA”.

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> To the guy who promised to self fund his campaigns.

I’ve suggested that Merchan’s sentence should be that Trump live up to his word, for all the promises that he made to the American people.

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Hell, I thought we were in the middle of a recession and everybody’s working three jobs just to afford ramen noodles. Now you’re telling me that MAGAts have $50 million of disposable income lying around?

There seems to be a disconnect there somewhere.

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Think Easter Islanders cutting down all their trees (eventually contributing to their starvation) to build huge stone heads to appease their gods.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> > [@hajario](#):
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> > The fact that he was able to raise that much money in a few days indicates something.
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> Yes, assuming it’s true, it indicates that approximately 0.3% of the US population sent him an average of around $50. No one disputes that he’s the head of a cult.

Anecdotally, the tweets I’ve seen from the MAGA people who show up in my feed have bragged about sending him anywhere up to $1000, so I think the meaning of the money raised is a little less than many people think.

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Anecdotally, the tweets I’ve seen from the MAGA people who show up in my feed have bragged about sending him anywhere up to $1000, so I think the meaning of the money raised is a little less than many people think.

I wonder which is more likely: That they are lying about the amount of money raised, the Maganuts are lying about how much they are donating, or both.

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