# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 294
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5861 "2024-06-07T23:39:40Z")
Yup, ratfucking hoax, all right. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5862 "2024-06-07T23:43:27Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I can just sign up and put something on the court system page? Yes. It’s there for anyone to comment on. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5863 "2024-06-08T02:13:57Z")
Nvmd. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5864 "2024-06-08T02:58:19Z")
Someone less uncritical and credulous than your average magachud or the nihilists in the right-wing media for whom truth is optional might have nosted that the poster’s profile gave his name as “Fuck You” and his avatar was a photo of a deceased punk singer known for throwing his own shit at the audience, or that he also claimed to be married to his cousin. [https://meidasnews.com/news/facebooker-at-center-of-jury-controversy-calls-himself-professional-sh-tposter](https://meidasnews.com/news/facebooker-at-center-of-jury-controversy-calls-himself-professional-sh-tposter) ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5865 "2024-06-08T04:39:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Someone less uncritical and credulous than your average magachud or the nihilists in the right-wing media for whom truth is optional A small bright spot: Foxnews is currently reporting this story with a banner proclaiming “Unverified Claim” , and below that phrase, a headline saying “questionable Facebook post”. In the body of the article Fox quotes the uknown poster’s profile as a “sh- poster”. :- ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5866 "2024-06-08T05:28:15Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Foxnews is currently reporting this story with a banner proclaiming “Unverified Claim” , and below that phrase, a headline saying “questionable Facebook post”. I don’t think the highest-paid shitposter on television got the memo. > > ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5867 "2024-06-08T07:44:14Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > If proven, this would be a clear example of juror misconduct. It’s also clear that Trump’s lawyers would demand a mistrial be declared, since they’ll demand anything that will get the orange felon off the hook. It’s much less clear if such an enormous use of resources would be mandated or justified since this is not evidence of impartiality. " If a defendant can prove that jury misconduct “may have affected a substantial right of the defendant,” the remedy is a new trial." Yeah, great. Give Trump a new trial if he wants it. Let him spend a few more weeks asleep in a cold courtroom, when he could otherwise be attending rallies. I’m not sure if he’s thought this through. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5868 "2024-06-08T09:33:55Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > In the body of the article Fox quotes the uknown poster’s profile as a “sh- poster”. “He has a whole bag of sh- with your name on it.” ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5869 "2024-06-08T10:04:02Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Yeah, great. Give Trump a new trial if he wants it. Let him spend a few more weeks asleep in a cold courtroom, when he could otherwise be attending rallies Legal question: if a new trial happens, who will be the judge? If there’s any way for Trump to get a different judge, it’s worth it to him to sit and fart for a few more weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5870 "2024-06-08T16:15:51Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Legal question: if a new trial happens, who will be the judge? > If there’s any way for Trump to get a different judge, it’s worth it to him to sit and fart for a few more weeks. It’s Justice Merchan who would preside over the new trial. There’s no valid reason to remove him as the judge. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5871 "2024-06-08T17:51:56Z")
Just a reminder for anyone skimming the last handful of posts; the “leak” was a troll and there’s no basis for a mistrial. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5872 "2024-06-08T18:16:29Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Legal question: if a new trial happens, who will be the judge? There will be no new trial. There will be a couple hearings. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5873 "2024-06-08T19:36:49Z")
Well, there’ll also be a lot of screaming about how this proves it was rigged. Fake jurors, unfair. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5874 "2024-06-08T20:54:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > There will be a couple hearings. Will there even be that? Assuming the facts are as it appears (this is a random troll who is not connected to either the jury or the trial) Why would there be any hearing? Surely the most that will happen is a a couple of NYPD officers will track this guy down, interview him to establish those facts, and give him a warning for making false statements. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5875 "2024-06-08T20:56:14Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > there’ll also be a lot of screaming about how this proves it was rigged. Fake jurors, unfair But only because of this troll. If he hadn’t posted that all MAGAts would have stoically accepted the guilty verdict and respected the rule of law. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5876 "2024-06-08T21:59:23Z")
It’s just another straw for Trump supporters to grasp at, even if it turns out to not even be a straw. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5877 "2024-06-08T22:04:41Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > But only because of this troll. If he hadn’t posted that all MAGAts would have stoically accepted the guilty verdict and respected the rule of law. 🙄 So why did he post it, do you think? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5878 "2024-06-08T22:11:15Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > So why did he post it, do you think? Likely the same reason we get trolls on this board – for the lulz. Or, less likely, a devoted MAGAt trying to stir up another conspiracy theory for the rest of the MAGAsphere to hang their hats on, since they automatically believe anything that supports their orange messiah. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5879 "2024-06-08T22:14:03Z")
It can also be profitable for him. These days, anything that generates engagement through clicks, likes, and follows can increase the value of the account. The publicity he and his account will get from this will boost his followers and generate more revenue for him. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/5880 "2024-06-08T22:28:22Z")
Bryan Tyler Cohen has a pretty good overview of the lunacy of FOX news going full throttle on this breaking news from a random internet poster. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtYceuZPeY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtYceuZPeY) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=293) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=295)