# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/61 "2023-03-18T12:58:15Z")
As always, he’s a) hoping somebody else will do the heavy lifting of organizing the event(s), and b) maintaining plausible deniability that he had nothing, _nothing_, to do with the ensuing violence & destruction that occurred solely in his name. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/62 "2023-03-18T13:16:50Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Remember one big difference: He no longer has the power of the presidency around him to protect him. > “PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!” - Donald Trump, calling out the mob to defend him with violence This does not sound promising for a peaceful exercise of the law. He’s actually asking his supporters to rise up in opposition, again. It did not go so well for America last time. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/63 "2023-03-18T13:18:42Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > But Donnie, you have to tell them where to meet up. It won’t do to have them scattered all over. We might get a Four Seasons Landscaping kerfuffle again. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/64 "2023-03-18T13:40:10Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > He’s actually asking his supporters to rise up in opposition, again. It did not go so well for America last time. I agree with your point, but it went worse for the ~~protesters~~ traitors than it did for the country. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/65 "2023-03-18T13:48:14Z")
My birthday was yesterday, but it’s okay that I may have to wait a few extra days for this wonderful gift to arrive! Donald Trump is getting arrested! Huzzah for the rule of law! ETA: this whole scandal does raise an interesting alternative timeline, doesn’t it? What if Stormy Daniels had turned down the hush money and instead run to the press in the days before the election? I wonder how that October surprise would have played out. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/66 "2023-03-18T14:22:39Z")
If the insurrectionists show up again, I suspect they will not be met with kindness in NY. Every cop will have a back up of 10 people. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/67 "2023-03-18T14:28:39Z")
Dude’s having a panic attack. > **[Trump announces his impending 'arrest' and calls for protests: 'Take our...](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-arrested/)** > > On Saturday Morning, Donald Trump claimed on Truth Social that he will be "arrested" on Tuesday by the Manhattan district attorney's office and called for public protests.In two all-cap posts, he wrote, "OUR NATION IS NOW THIRD WORLD & DYING. THE... ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/68 "2023-03-18T14:39:41Z")
> THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK! When did he start writing in the third person? Is that new or did I miss it? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/69 "2023-03-18T14:52:16Z")
Why would he predict Tuesday? Obviously he wants riots and disruption in the hopes the AG will back off. I confess that I’m not sure what he’s allegedly being arrested for. I don’t grasp why it’s illegal to pay someone money to not disclose something. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/70 "2023-03-18T14:55:27Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > When did he start writing in the third person? Is that new or did I miss it? He does it a lot. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/71 "2023-03-18T15:00:03Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t grasp why it’s illegal to pay someone money to not disclose something. With election funds. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/72 "2023-03-18T15:03:07Z")
I think the reporting of the payment is where he allegedly broke the law. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/73 "2023-03-18T15:07:11Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > With election funds. Ahh, yes. That’s quite illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/74 "2023-03-18T15:13:27Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK! > > When did he start writing in the third person? Is that new or did I miss it? He’s been the [Third-Person-In-Chief](http://washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/17/third-person-in-chief-how-trump-keeps-referring-himself-third-person/) for a long time. “Of Trump’s [many](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/01/with-or-without-plan-theres-almost-no-policy-trump-isnt-looking/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5) rhetorical [habits](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/21/exaggerating-economic-numbers-is-nothing-new-trump-doing-so-give-saudis-cover-is/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5), perhaps none is more [bizarre](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/how-to-talk-trump/550934/) than his tendency to refer to himself in the third person when discussing seemingly anything.” It’s not a perfect correlation. But the association, in and out of politics, between referring to oneself in the third person and jackassery is striking. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/75 "2023-03-18T15:26:07Z")
MTG is taking it well. > **['Enough of this!': Marjorie Taylor Greene flips out after Trump announces he...](https://www.rawstory.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-donald-trump/)** > > Reacting to a report that Donald Trump is likely to be indicted next week in a Manhattan courtroom by District Attorney Alvin Bragg, and the former president's claim on Truth Social early Saturday that he will be arrested on Tuesday, Rep. Marjorie... ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/76 "2023-03-18T15:35:00Z")
The odd thing is that everyone, including me in that group, is taking Trump’s word for this! What has become of us?! ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/77 "2023-03-18T15:47:14Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The odd thing is that everyone, including me in that group, is taking Trump’s word for this! Someone posted a videoblog by a former NY Assistant DA who figured the grand jury will meet next on Monday and is likely to vote for an indictment then. If so, then an arrest would follow the next day. So it’s not just Trump’s word here. I forget which thread that was posted in. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/78 "2023-03-18T15:52:10Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > If so, then an arrest would follow the next day. Let’s be clear: No _arrest_ is going to occur on Tuesday. Manhattan has no jurisdiction in Florida to execute an arrest warrant. Trump will be afforded an opportunity to _voluntarily surrender_ to an arrest warrant and appear in Manhattan for an arraignment. This is the process to which Trump’s attorney has said Trump will adhere. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/79 "2023-03-18T16:15:59Z")
So trump’s declaration that he will be arrested on Tuesday is, not surprisingly, _incorrect_, just like every other statement that ever came out of his piehole. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/80 "2023-03-18T16:16:57Z")
Maybe he thinks he’ll be arrested for something else. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=5)