# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/821 "2023-04-08T23:12:05Z")
He was a new father when he was with Stormy. He didn’t have time for an affair. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/822 "2023-04-08T23:26:39Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > … the actual court documents lay out the entire scheme succinctly, including Trump’s informal agreement for Pecker to act as “the eyes and ears” of the campaign and to alert Trump to damaging stories, also to run damaging stories about Trump’s opponents. Always the hallmark of an honest politician wanting only to serve his country! 😁 Although to be fair, Trump did service a large number of his country’s female citizens, and he did demonstrate his love of country in a photo-op where he apparently attempted to hump the flag in the manner of a confused canine crazed by surging hormones. To Trumpists, these are all admirable traits. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/823 "2023-04-09T01:03:55Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > My wife just saw a comment on Facebook to the effect that it’s ironic that after stiffing people for decades, he’s finally being prosecuted for actually paying someone! And perhaps also for having Cohen report a business expense reimbursement as regular income — when the normal Trump way is just the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/824 "2023-04-09T03:51:33Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Trump was supposed to reimburse Pecker for the 150K they paid for McDougal’s story and he stiffed him. Pecker needed to play a little more hardball there. Threaten to run the story if he wasn’t paid. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/825 "2023-04-09T04:20:28Z")
_ **Trump Stiffs Pecker, Leaves Him Hanging”** _ The headlines just write themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/826 "2023-04-09T05:09:06Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I think it helps to start with the idea that Trump lives in a world where you can do whatever you want to people as long as you have somebody else come along and “take care” of them. … [Snip] Thank you. This is what I’ve thought about Trump since he was elected: he’s the Godfather. Like Don Vito Corleone, he’s responsible for nothing–his people are. Oh, he may issue instructions or demands, sometimes obliquely: “Stand back and stand by,” and “Be there, will be wild,” and the following, from his January 6 rally at the Ellipse: > [@](#): > > And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore. > > . . . > > So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we’re going to the Capitol, and we’re going to try and give. Just like the Godfather, Don Vito Corleone. Guilty of nothing, but responsible for instigating everything that happens subsequently, though acted upon by others. Trump would make a perfect mob boss. He’s untouchable; his supporters are the patsies who get to take the fall. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/827 "2023-04-09T14:11:35Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > _ **Trump Stiffs Pecker, Leaves Him Hanging”** _ > > The headlines just write themselves. Bravo! Building upon the shoulders of a giant may I add: > _ **Trump Stiffs Pecker, Leaves Him Hanging over Daniels** _ ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/828 "2023-04-09T19:42:58Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > He was a new father when he was with Stormy. He didn’t have time for an affair. Helping out with late night feedings and what not. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/829 "2023-04-10T17:39:27Z")
Did trump actually get fingerprinted and have a DNA swab done? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/830 "2023-04-10T17:43:10Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Just like the Godfather, Don Vito Corleone. Guilty of nothing, but responsible for instigating everything that happens subsequently, though acted upon by others. Trump would make a perfect mob boss. He’s untouchable; his supporters are the patsies who get to take the fall. And when displeased with the boss, they go all Praetorian Guard on him. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/831 "2023-04-10T18:39:13Z")
He did get fingerprinted. > **[Trump Didn’t Get Mugshot Ahead Of Criminal Arraignment, Report Says](https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/04/04/trump-didnt-get-mugshot-ahead-of-criminal-arraignment-report-says/)** > > The former president is being charged with 34 felony counts, Yahoo News reported. I don’t see anything one way or the other about a DNA swab, though reportedly Trump volunteered to provide his DNA to law enforcement to clear him of rape charges, etc. From what I’ve read, a judge said, “No thanks.” I’m holding back the inevitable off-color joke. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/832 "2023-04-11T17:27:25Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > You rarely see a double standard as stark as: > > $15 to Biden: bad > Decades of Thomas accepting millions in undisclosed gifts: just fine. I don’t know about that. There’s a post in another thread about politicians refusing to give money to a state school lunch program, and then turning around and increasing their own meal allowances. That’s pretty stark. And brings to mind images of piggy-eyed politicians snarfling at a trough. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/833 "2023-04-11T18:58:04Z")
ag bragg files a 50 page lawsuit against jim jordan. “in response to an unprecedently brazen and unconstitutional attack”. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/834 "2023-04-11T19:04:48Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > ag bragg files a 50 page lawsuit against jim jordan. Links are such a lovely thing to share with the rest of us, when you see a bit of breaking news. Like so: > **[Bragg Sues Jim Jordan in Move to Block Interference in Trump Case](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/nyregion/bragg-lawsuit-jim-jordan-trump-indictment.html)** > > Mr. Jordan, a Republican from Ohio, had subpoenaed a former prosecutor who worked on the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into former President Donald J. Trump. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/835 "2023-04-11T19:41:55Z")
[Bragg v Jordan | PDF | Donald Trump | American Government (scribd.com)](https://www.scribd.com/document/637623216/Bragg-v-Jordan#) pdf of the filing. thank you for the assist kenobi\_65. i didn’t see any links when i typed the earlier post. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/836 "2023-04-11T19:51:11Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > thank you for the assist kenobi\_65. i didn’t see any links when i typed the earlier post. You are welcome…but if you didn’t see any links, where did you get the news? On TV? If so, it’s helpful to note where you heard/saw a news item like that, so it’s clear that you are, in fact, sharing information from a news source, and not just “someone told me…” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/837 "2023-04-11T19:52:44Z")
paywalled. Here’s another version of the story for those without NYT access: > **[Manhattan DA Bragg sues Rep. Jordan over House probe of Trump investigation](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/11/manhattan-da-bragg-sues-rep-jordan-over-house-probe-of-trump-investigation.html)** > > Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg is prosecuting Donald Trump in connection with a hush money payment Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen paid porn star Stormy Daniels. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/838 "2023-04-11T19:54:31Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > paywalled I hadn’t been able to find a story about the lawsuit on a few free sites when I posted, so I defaulted to the Times, which did have a story. But, now, it seems to be spreading, and here’s a link to coverage on NBC: > **[Manhattan DA sues Rep. Jim Jordan to block GOP inquiry into Trump case](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/manhattan-da-sues-rep-jim-jordan-block-gop-inquiry-trump-case-rcna79193)** > > Bragg says the committee's subpoena would cause "imminent irreparable harm if the secret and privileged material is compelled to be disclosed." (and, ninjaed by you as I was typing. 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/839 "2023-04-11T20:12:36Z")
My favorite part (from [ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jordan-bragg-feud-escalates-house-gop-plans-crime/story?id=98499238)) > The House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Jordan, will hold a field hearing on April 17 in New York City to discuss “victims of violent crime in Manhattan.” There, lawmakers will examine what the committee called Bragg’s “pro-crime policies” that have led to a “dangerous community” for residents, according to a press release issued on Monday night. > > A spokesperson for Bragg’s office quickly shot back: “Don’t be fooled, the House GOP is coming to the safest big city in America for a political stunt. This hearing won’t engage actual efforts to increase public safety, such as supporting national gun legislation and shutting down the iron pipeline.” > > The spokesperson also said New York City had a murder rate “nearly three times lower” than that of Columbus, Ohio – Jordan’s home turf. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/840 "2023-04-11T20:20:34Z")
it was a breaking news banner on cnn. they didn’t have it up on their site yet. i will do so in the future, thank you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=43)