# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1021 "2024-03-25T21:52:37Z")
Maybe the crane is non-operative? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1022 "2024-03-26T00:13:56Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > i don’t think he looks well today. his face looks drawn and even for him his colour is off. All his color has gone into his diaper? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1023 "2024-03-26T00:18:00Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > witch hunt, unfair, biden run, (who knows if he’s alive) all his people. radical left. election interference, biden can’t win, biden responsible for everything happening to “trump”, so unfair to “trump”, out to get “trump”. Have you ever noticed Trump speaks in hashtags? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1024 "2024-03-26T00:26:24Z")
![](https://media.tenor.com/ewxL8OTwIxgAAAAM/dune-oil.gif) I’m cautiously optimistic that this criminal trial might result in conviction before the election, and could have him incarcerated. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1025 "2024-03-26T00:53:34Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > even for him his colour is off. There’s only so much that slathering on bronzer can do. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1026 "2024-03-26T00:54:42Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Have you ever noticed Trump speaks in hashtags? That’s probbly a good description of what passes for his thought process. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1027 "2024-03-26T01:52:55Z")
post deleted. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1028 "2024-03-26T04:16:49Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Have you ever noticed Trump speaks in hashtags? In all seriousness, as much as it sounds like (and kinda is) a joke, I think that’s just what happens when you never think more than three words out. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Maybe the makeup crew had a clog in the airbrush. His own hair dressers have actually said the reason for his hair color being all over the place is because he won’t sit still long enough for them to get it to a consistent color. > **[Donald Trump’s hair color changes with his mood, ‘he can’t sit still’ at...](https://pagesix.com/2024/01/28/style/donald-trumps-hair-color-changes-with-his-mood-source/)** > > “Trump’s hair color can vary… depending on how long his hairdresser can get him to sit still and let the color do its job,” the source added. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1029 "2024-03-26T10:32:32Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > i don’t think he looks well today. his face looks drawn and even for him his colour is off. More Rustoleum Copper than Tangerine? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1030 "2024-03-26T11:22:08Z")
Probably this color: [![](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5971182.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Renamed-Paint-Colours.jpg) ](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5971182.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Renamed-Paint-Colours.jpg) But it could be: [![](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5971178.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Renamed-Paint-Colours.jpg) ](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5971178.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Renamed-Paint-Colours.jpg) or: [![](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5971174.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Renamed-Paint-Colours.jpg) ](https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5971174.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/Renamed-Paint-Colours.jpg) Anyway: [it does sound like the judge slammed the door on Team Trump’s delaying shenanigans](https://apnews.com/article/trump-hush-money-trial-new-york-b8fb980a6ec745e918a13e676b7f1460): > [@](#): > > Merchan bristled at the defense’s claims at a hearing Monday, saying the DA’s office had no duty to collect evidence from the federal investigation, nor was the U.S. attorney’s office required to volunteer the documents. What transpired was a “far cry” from Manhattan prosecutors “injecting themselves in the process and vehemently and aggressively trying to obstruct your ability to get documentation,” the judge said. > > “It’s just not what happened,” Merchan said. > > Merchan grew impatient, pressing Trump lawyer Todd Blanche to cite even a single legal precedent for his argument. > > When the lawyer couldn’t, the judge laid into him, saying: “You’re literally accusing the Manhattan DA’s office and the people assigned to this case of engaging in prosecutorial misconduct and of trying to make me complicit in it. And you don’t have a single cite to support that position.” Making wild claims without evidence? How unlike Trump and his lawyers… /s ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1031 "2024-03-26T11:46:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And you don’t have a single cite to support that position Obviously the judge is a member of the Dope! ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1032 "2024-03-26T13:34:32Z")
Just love judges like that—by the book and tolerating no nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1033 "2024-03-26T13:53:01Z")
> Merchan grew impatient, pressing Trump lawyer Todd Blanche to cite even a single legal precedent for his argument. > > When the lawyer couldn’t, the judge laid into him, saying: “You’re literally accusing the Manhattan DA’s office and the people assigned to this case of engaging in prosecutorial misconduct and of trying to make me complicit in it. And you don’t have a single cite to support that position.” Yet another Trump lawyer on the road to disbarment? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1034 "2024-03-26T13:56:30Z")
Give him time… ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1035 "2024-03-26T15:00:09Z")
todd blanche is one of the more competent lawyers on team trump. trump is now compromising the “good lawyers”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1036 "2024-03-26T15:00:15Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Yet another Trump lawyer on the road to disbarment? Everything Trump Touches Turns To Shit. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1037 "2024-03-26T19:08:49Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > the judge laid into him, saying: “You’re literally accusing the Manhattan DA’s office and the people assigned to this case of engaging in prosecutorial misconduct and of trying to make me complicit in it. And you don’t have a single cite to support that position.” This is how it should have gone down in Georgia. And how it usually _would_ go down. You aren’t going to successfully defend a case by trying to impugn the integrity of the prosecutor, and _especially_ not the courts or the justice system writ large. This judge is not fucking around. > **[Judge Imposes Gag Order on Trump in Manhattan Criminal Trial](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/26/nyregion/trump-trial-gag-order.html)** > > The order limiting the former president’s speech came the day after Justice Juan M. Merchan set an April 15 trial date for the hush-money case. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1038 "2024-03-26T19:15:26Z")
I am so happy to see it. Well done, Judge Merchan!! ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1039 "2024-03-26T19:26:32Z")
Conviction seems likely by, say, late May, but then I’d be genuinely surprised if he was incarcerated for what’s essentially a white collar crime while pending his appeal (which, let’s be honest, is still going to be pending come the November elections). Given my druthers, this was NOT the trial I was hoping would go first. Ideally, the Jan 6 trial would the most important one to resolve prior to the elections. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1040 "2024-03-26T19:29:20Z")
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