# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/121 "2023-03-19T12:18:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So at the moment, Trump is calling for “PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!” > > What happens if he goes totally off the deep end, and starts calling publicly for violence, overthrow of government institutions and attacking the police? What happens is he gets arrested for inciting a riot and a few other things. At least some of which are federal charges. And given his history of using mass communications to stir up trouble, it’ll be easy enough to get an order remanding him to federal custody without the ability to communicate directly with the public. Sounds like just about the ideal outcome to me. Net of the few storefronts that’ll get burned, the few police and bystanders injured, etc. But on a national scale, that’s microdrop in the ocean compared to the other harms he’s done to this country and will do if permitted to continue on his reckless course to power again. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/122 "2023-03-19T12:20:55Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > Apparently they’re all going to Florida to form a MAGAt shield around him, there’s a vivid image. > > [Officials Prep for Protests as MAGA Sycophants Push ‘Patriot Moat’ Around Mar-a-Lago (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/officials-prep-for-protests-as-maga-sycophants-push-patriot-moat-around-mar-a-lago/ar-AA18NStA) What’s funny is exactly that manuever has been unfolding these last couple weeks in Pakistan protecting a disgraced former populist kleptocrat president from arrest and prosecution. With no disrespect to any Pakistanis still posting here, when US politics starts to echo places like that play-for-play, the US and therefore the world are in deep shit. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/123 "2023-03-19T12:55:01Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > Apparently they’re all going to Florida to form a MAGAt shield around him, there’s a vivid image. > > [Officials Prep for Protests as MAGA Sycophants Push ‘Patriot Moat’ Around Mar-a-Lago (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/officials-prep-for-protests-as-maga-sycophants-push-patriot-moat-around-mar-a-lago/ar-AA18NStA) How large an area do they really think they could enclose like that? I think the main building is essentially Trump’s residence and something of a clubhouse for the golf course. Hard to imagine Trump staying in just that one building for very long; no rallies, no campaign events, no golf games. Plus, they’d have to keep the people in the moat supplied. Seems to me it would be pretty easy to just wait them out. It’s an interesting idea for a protest, but it’s hard to see it working in a practical sense. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/124 "2023-03-19T13:02:50Z")
As a group, they don’t tend to think more than a few hours ahead. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/125 "2023-03-19T13:05:29Z")
You’re giving them too much credit. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/126 "2023-03-19T13:30:26Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Of course, nobody should be run over by a car; however, there is a bit of irony that the “patriot moat” protestors could be legally run over much easier thanks to DeSantis. Username/post synch ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/127 "2023-03-19T13:50:31Z")
Goshdam I hope Jordan Klepper is already making travel arrangements to go interview these “patriot moat” idiots. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/128 "2023-03-19T13:54:24Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Meaning, maybe the prosecutors reached out to his lawyers and basically said “look, we expect that an indictment is getting issued Monday, so if Trump wants to come down on Tuesday to get photographed and fingerprinted we don’t need to make any fuss or cause a scene” and, upon hearing about this arrangement, Trump decided to engender a big fuss and scene. 'Cause anytime anyone suggests trump do one thing, he does the opposite. In fact, if the lawyers came right out and told trump to incite a ginormous riot, he’d probably turn himself in quietly. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/129 "2023-03-19T13:56:46Z")
I truly don’t see what could go wrong: > **[5 Boats Sink At Trump Boat Parade In Texas](https://www.npr.org/2020/09/06/910322916/5-boats-sink-at-trump-boat-parade-in-texas)** > > Supporters of President Trump took to the water in hundreds of boats on Saturday. The traffic created choppy waters that inundated several boats. Two of the boats were still submerged Sunday. [Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please…] ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/130 "2023-03-19T14:15:24Z")
Don’t the Marines have some huge hovercrafts? They could drive one right up to the house and scoop the fucker up before the knuckledraggers knew what was happening. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/131 "2023-03-19T14:16:56Z")
Navy, but they’re stationed at USMC Camp Pendleton [ETA: and the Naval base at Little Creek, VA]: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Aj5o4AC5i88/maxresdefault.jpg "U.S. Navy Gigantic Hovercraft (LCAC) Beach Landing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj5o4AC5i88) “Knock, knock!” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/132 "2023-03-19T15:16:47Z")
So this is the week? I think Donnie _wants_ a perp walk to enhance his victimhood. Maybe even hire Doug Hutchinson to swat him with a baton while shouting “Dead man walking! We got a dead man walking here!” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/133 "2023-03-19T15:36:20Z")
TFG - “Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money” Not necessarily in that order. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/134 "2023-03-19T15:54:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > TFG - “Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money” > > Not necessarily in that order Not bad, but I think it works better: “Send Lawyers, Guns, and Money” - Warren Zevon “Screw it, just Send the MONEY” - TFG ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/135 "2023-03-19T16:19:54Z")
I would like to see his surrender, arrest, and arraignment happen with as little media hoopla as possible. Also hoping for a gag order. Probably neither will happen. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/136 "2023-03-19T16:35:33Z")
A gag order would be the greatest civil rights violation since the big bang. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/137 "2023-03-19T16:37:31Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > A gag order would be the greatest civil rights violation since the big bang Really? Not saying a gag order is a good idea, but there have been some pretty great civil rights violation in the last couple hundred years that I think at least come close. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/138 "2023-03-19T16:39:02Z")
I was preemptively quoting PAB 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/139 "2023-03-19T16:40:04Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Speculating here, but is it possible that the reason Trump announced a Tuesday arrest is because his lawyers tried quietly arranging for him to get processed on that day. Trump gets a new lawyer and almost immediate betrays him? Must be a day ending in “y”. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/140 "2023-03-19T16:45:08Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Also hoping for a gag order. Would it be asking too much for a literal gag? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=8)