# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1581 "2024-04-17T13:23:50Z")
Someone’s trying to help their chances of being chosen for VP. > **[GOP rep makes curious ‘plea’ to prospective jurors in Trump case](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gop-rep-makes-curious-plea-prospective-jurors-trump-case-rcna147987)** > > Rep. Byron Donalds hasn’t yet seen the prosecutors’ case against Donald Trump. The GOP congressman is pleading with jurors to find him not guilty anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1582 "2024-04-17T13:29:44Z")
Jury tampering is now just an accepted part of GoP politics? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1583 "2024-04-17T13:30:05Z")
They should bring in a bed for him, like when John brought a bed into the studio for Yoko. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1584 "2024-04-17T13:52:20Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Kinda surprised the defense didn’t strike the juror from [Puerto Rico](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-roll-puerto-rico-n807216). Maybe they’ll accept jurors from some of those shithole countries next. > > But what do I know, watch that guy turn out to be the lone holdout to acquit him. Puerto Ricans lean pretty strongly Conservative in general ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1585 "2024-04-17T13:52:54Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Hope the final chapter is the same as in the film! More like how it was for Gibson’s character, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1586 "2024-04-17T14:03:41Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Hope the final chapter is the same as in the film! Which film? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1587 "2024-04-17T14:06:19Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Hope the final chapter is the same as in the film! 😉 > [@Cervaise](#): > > I’d rather see the slightly earlier ending where he’s dropped from orbit. > [@eschereal](#): > > More like how it was for Gibson’s character, perhaps. OK… So apparently this is from a Mel Gibson film? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1588 "2024-04-17T14:11:17Z")
The Blues Brothers. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mike\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_H)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1589 "2024-04-17T14:13:01Z")
Yeah, [Henry Gibson](https://youtu.be/FD9N7v5qGig?t=135), not Mel. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1590 "2024-04-17T14:29:11Z")
To the tune of [**“Wake Up Little Susie”**](https://youtu.be/xCbcC9YV5es) by the Everly Brothers Wake up, little Donnie, wake up Wake up, little Donnie, wake up You’ve been so sound asleep, wake up, little Donnie and weep The Judge is here, the trial is fair, and you’re in trouble deep Wake up little Donnie Wake up little Donnie Well, what are we gonna tell Melania? What are we gonna tell Ivanka? What are we gonna tell our friends When they say “Lock Him Up!?” ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1591 "2024-04-17T14:45:46Z")
> Good example of justice delayed, justice denied. If he isn’t jailed until after jury selection is complete, most social benefit, from the jailing, will be gone. It also raises questions about the internet. For all I know, there are thousands of other people who are, on the internet, similarly tampering with jury selection. Arrest them all? Doesn’t seem practical. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1592 "2024-04-17T14:49:23Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > There would be an argument that, with Trump under gag orders and sitting in courtrooms, his Election 2024 team are able to run a much, much more disciplined and effective campaign. I think if it comes to that, he’ll end up in jail for violating the gag order. All his opponents need to do is talk about how fair this trial has been, how much integrity the judge has, how professional/by the book the prosecutors are etc, and there’s no way he won’t lash out. As soon as people realize that Trump is under a gag order but they aren’t, I think they’ll have some fun with it. > [@Smid](#): > > His gain was free advertising for his brand. Just he was too stupid to actually lose. Which, IIRC, is essentially what South Park predicted. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1593 "2024-04-17T15:02:35Z")
Hypothetical-what if they just couldn’t find an impartial jury? Everyone they call up is biased and admits it? What then? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1594 "2024-04-17T15:04:24Z")
Change of venue. (To some mountain valley in Papua New Guinea, I guess…) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1595 "2024-04-17T15:05:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Hypothetical-what if they just couldn’t find an impartial jury? Everyone they call up is biased and admits it? What then ? Typically, they would change the venue and try again. I had that happen once in 35 years of practice. Small town and everyone had an opinion for or against my client. (It would be harder to find a venue in NYS where Trump isn’t loved and hated though) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1596 "2024-04-17T15:32:02Z")
from cnn, here is the info on the 7 so far. ### Juror 1 - Foreperson - Works in sales and has some college education - Originally from Ireland - Married with no children - Gets news from The New York Times, Daily Mail and sometimes Fox News and MSNBC ### Juror 2 - Oncology nurse - Native New Yorker who lives with her fiancé - Reads The New York Times and watches CNN ### Juror 3 - Corporate lawyer - Originally from Oregon - Not married and doesn’t have children - Gets news from The New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Google ### Juror 4 - Runs an IT business for training and consulting - Attended one year of college - An older man originally from Puerto Rico who is married with adult children and two grandkids - Told the court he finds Trump fascinating and mysterious but didn’t indicate any strong feelings about his politics ### Juror 5 - English teacher in a public charter school system - Master’s degree in education - Young Black woman who isn’t married and doesn’t have children - Said she avoids political conversations - Wasn’t aware that Trump is facing charges in other criminal cases ### Juror 6 - Software engineer at a large broadcast company - Recently graduated from college - Not married and doesn’t have children - Currently living with three roommates in Chelsea - Gets her news from The New York Times, Google, Facebook and TikTok ### Juror 7 - Civil litigator - Married with two kids - Lives on the Upper East Side in Manhattan - Said there were likely Trump administration policies he disagreed with - Reads The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, New York Post and Washington Post ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1597 "2024-04-17T15:49:34Z")
Two lawyers on the panel so far. That’s going to be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1598 "2024-04-17T15:51:10Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Of course, If he was really — we are talking about conservatives, so I am going to use one of their words — henpecked, he never would have gotten into this particular mess. Given the Access Hollywood tape, I think the phrase used should be “pussy whipped”. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/1599 "2024-04-17T15:53:29Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Told the court he finds Trump fascinating and mysterious I don’t know why, but I find this sentence hilarious. ---
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> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > - Told the court he finds Trump fascinating and mysterious but didn’t indicate any strong feelings about his politics El diablo naranjo! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=81)