# Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953 "2023-03-09T22:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/161 "2023-03-20T01:52:31Z")
…He thinks McCarthy has the power to end the investigations? Does he also think that Pelosi controlled all the investigations when he was in office? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/162 "2023-03-20T01:54:48Z")
That post is from last year, BTW. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/163 "2023-03-20T01:55:02Z")
I think yes. 🤣 I mean he’s pretty dumb. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/164 "2023-03-20T01:55:46Z")
Darn it! Reddit got me again! Damn you Reddit!!! But still, how was he not charged with attempted blackmail? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/165 "2023-03-20T02:07:13Z")
Probably because it’s not real. I checked Liz Harrington’s Twitter history and these are the statements Loser Donald issued on that date; [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKAfEeX0AghA4Y?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKAfEeX0AghA4Y?format=jpg&name=900x900) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIvmKfWQAAi9TK?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIvmKfWQAAi9TK?format=jpg&name=small) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOJiyx8XwAEcweC?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOJiyx8XwAEcweC?format=jpg&name=900x900) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKyJ4RWQAMnze8?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOKyJ4RWQAMnze8?format=jpg&name=900x900) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOK14jBXoAEsDlx?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOK14jBXoAEsDlx?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/166 "2023-03-20T02:08:33Z")
Man, I double suck tonight. Sorry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/167 "2023-03-20T02:12:12Z")
Don’t feel bad. I’m a professional Trump Whisperer. I’ve learned to tell the difference between authentic Twitter rants and people trying to imitate his Twitter rants. An authentic threat would have read something like “Crazy Kevin McCarthy had better hope there are no “videos” of him if he refuses to stop the WITCH HUNT against “Trump”!” ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/168 "2023-03-20T02:14:33Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > But still, how was he not charged with attempted blackmail? I don’t think it would be a violation of the [federal statute](https://www.egattorneys.com/federal-crimes/federal-blackmail-and-extortion), if Trump really said it, because Trump isn’t allegedly threatening to expose a McCarthy crime, but probably just something embarrassing. Such could violate the law in some states, but not others. Meanwhile, the case is being made that Trump will be helped in his quest for the nomination if indicted as expected: > **[Why an indictment may help Trump — and threaten the GOP](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/19/gop-trump-indictment-threat-00087765)** > > Trump allies quickly turned the impending charges against the ex-president into a litmus test for the rest of the Republican field. I personally think the political effect of indictment is unpredictable, except that it will not deter future crooked politicians. If guilty of the charges, I hope he is convicted, but if Bragg overreaches, I hope Trump is acquitted. It is disturbing that so many are jumping to conclusions about charges we can now only guess at, as shown in my last link. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/169 "2023-03-20T02:21:33Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Meanwhile, the case is being made that Trump will be helped in his quest for the nomination if indicted as expected: Really, a nothingburger. Of course some ‘analyst’ is going to try to argue that Trump will be helped by a criminal indictment, that’s what they get paid to do: Make predictions that no one will remember when they are inevitably wrong. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/170 "2023-03-20T02:31:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Of course some ‘analyst’ is going to try to argue that Trump will be helped by a criminal indictment, that’s what they get paid to do: At a minimum, it will help Trump with fundraising. Unfortunately for my bank balance, I was not paid to say that. P.S. Of course, some things that Trump could fundraise off should nonetheless be said or done. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/171 "2023-03-20T02:32:38Z")
Eh. It’s not like he wasn’t a grifter before this. Go ahead, sucker some idiots, that’s what they are there for. I mean, this… > [@](#): > > If anything, Republicans say, Trump will benefit from a short-term rush of support, much as he did following the FBI’s seizure of documents from his Mar-a-Lago estate last year. Yeah, that big rush of support which gave the Republicans the Senate and firm control of the House. Oh, wait. That didn’t happen. He just grifted a bunch of morons. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/172 "2023-03-20T06:44:31Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Man, I double suck tonight. Sorry. ☹ You’d think a robot would be better at this computer stuff. Older model, time for an upgrade? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/173 "2023-03-20T06:56:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Probably because it’s not real. I checked Liz Harrington’s Twitter history and these are the statements Loser Donald issued on that date; Loser Donald holds a rally. So what else is new? “Bears still shit in woods, Pope remains Catholic, sky remains blue, sun still sets in the west, and Donald Trump holds a rally.” Nope, nothing new there. Jeez, Don, surprise us with something new willya? These rallies are getting kinda dumb and tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/174 "2023-03-20T10:17:24Z")
The last time I did that I started calling everyone a water filled meat bag, and I don’t think we want that, right H20 contained hydrocarbon sack? _Beep_ ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/175 "2023-03-20T13:46:21Z")
If events follow true to form, Donald _won’t_ be indicted tomorrow (because it was never planned to happen) and will then crow about how public opposition from his supporters caused the DA to back off. 1. Declare situation that doesn’t exist 2. When situation doesn’t occur, take credit for stopping it 3. Profit! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/176 "2023-03-20T14:55:00Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > If events follow true to form, Donald _won’t_ be indicted tomorrow (because it was never planned to happen) The headlines should read: “Donald Trump Lied (Again)” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/177 "2023-03-20T16:01:48Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/178 "2023-03-20T16:30:12Z")
The same type thay were used on 1/6, nice. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/179 "2023-03-20T16:57:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > but also the tax evasion, the fraud, heck, including the Misrepresentation of National Weather Service Data. I would not be surprised if he’s used accounts and descriptions of Major League Baseball without express written consent. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953/180 "2023-03-20T17:07:30Z")
I’m sure he would claim that he had implied verbal permission and that you can’t prove otherwise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-prosecutors-file-criminal-charges-for-trump-re-stormy-daniels-case-ongoing-discussion-here-guilty-on-all-34-counts-may-30-2024/980953.md?page=10)