# Manhattan: wake up call or whiny bitch?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 25, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439 "2005-05-25T15:07:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/261 "2005-05-28T19:58:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You can’t reason with **Liberal** when he’s in oppressed Christian mode.

I believe that this is an example of _one_ type of post that would be prohibited according to the suggestions of **Polerius** in post [#244](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6206164&postcount=244). Is there a general consensus among all the parties following this thread that the rule of **Polerius** be implemented? (I’m making no claim that the staff would corporately agree to such an additional rule; I am asking whether there is a general consensus among the many hostiles on this board that this rule would be a good one, either generally or in **Great Debates** , specifically.)

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/262 "2005-05-28T19:59:04Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> On what basis are you accusing me of accusing him of trolling?

On the basis of the quoted part of your post. Duh!

> [@](#):
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> Feel free to report me to the mods, if you see fit.

Thanks, but at the risk of stating the obvious I hardly need your approval to do so. Yet I won’t. Why? Newsflash: I’m not the one whining about their alledged sluggishness. Four or five threads worth of whinning if you’re keeping score.

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> Try reading it again, but relax your sphincter a little this time.

Sure, read it along with me:

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Getting lumped in with Bricker - and you - is a compliment, not a dig. OK, rjung is too stupid to realize it, and I grant you that a compliment from a mouth-breather like him is as meaningless as an insult, but \*\*I’m trying the DNFTTwit route for a while.  
> \*\*(bolding mine)

[DNFTT Acronym

Definition - DNFTT: Do Not Feed the Trolls]([DNFTT - What does DNFTT stand for? The Free Dictionary](http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/DNFTT))

Now, apply some lube to your own sphincter, and try to spin that sentence in a way that does not refer directly to **rjung**.

Hint: go heavy on the lube. You’re going to need it.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/263 "2005-05-28T20:05:45Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Now, apply some lube to your own sphincter, and try to spin that sentence in a way that does not refer directly to **rjung**.

OK, so reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

Let’s try reading that quote again. This time, we bold the part that you can’t seem to see.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> I’m trying the DNFT **Twit** route for a while.

[I bet you never thought the tragedies in the news would strike so close to home.](http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1494399,00.html)

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/264 "2005-05-28T20:08:47Z")

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I’ll do it for him: the T at the end of **Shodan** ’s acronym stands for “Twit”. See the “wit” at the end?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/265 "2005-05-28T20:08:57Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I believe that this is an example of _one_ type of post that would be prohibited according to the suggestions of **Polerius** in post [#244](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6206164&postcount=244). Is there a general consensus among all the parties following this thread that the rule of **Polerius** be implemented? (I’m making no claim that the staff would corporately agree to such an additional rule; I am asking whether there is a general consensus among the many hostiles on this board that this rule would be a good one, either generally or in **Great Debates** , specifically.)

I believe you should open a separate thread for a poll/debate restricted to said proposal. The noise to signal ratio in this one is way too high.

For the record – I like the board just fine as is and believe additional rules would only increase the bickering over their implementation.

Quite a bit of that going on as it is.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/266 "2005-05-28T20:10:15Z")

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Aw, well I guess it was better that way anyhow.

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**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/267 "2005-05-28T20:11:11Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I believe that this is an example of _one_ type of post that would be prohibited according to the suggestions of **Polerius** in post [#244](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6206164&postcount=244).

Actually, according to my suggestion, it wouldn’t be prohibited since it was made in the Pit 🙂

However, you do see that such a statement, if made in GD, serves no purpose whatsoever and only helps bring down the quality of the debate.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/268 "2005-05-28T20:14:33Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> OK, so reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
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> Let’s try reading that quote again. This time, we bold the part that you can’t seem to see.  
> [DNFTT Word: Acronym Definition DNFTT Do Not Feed the Trolls](http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/DNFTT)
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Know what? I’m asking for a ruling on this one. I was willing to let it go if you’d simply apologized. But I don’t much care for pathetic weasels.

We shall see who needs glasses.

Mods? May I please have a ruling on this one?

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**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/269 "2005-05-28T20:16:34Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Know what? I’m asking for a ruling on this one. I was willing to let it go if you’d simply apologized. But I don’t much care for pathetic weasels.
> 
> We shall see who needs glasses.
> 
> Mods? May I please have a ruling on this one?

IANAMod, but it’s clear that he wrote DNFTTwit and not DNFTT

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/270 "2005-05-28T20:19:13Z")

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Public Service Announcement:  
IOKIARDI = It’s O.K. if a Republican Does It.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/271 "2005-05-28T20:20:55Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> IANAMod, but it’s clear that he wrote DNFTTwit and not DNFTT

And I contend that “DNFTTwit” is nothing but a lame attempt to sideskirt the rules.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/272 "2005-05-28T20:25:33Z")

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Yes, by all means let’s have a ruling, and if I am judged to have done wrong I will apologize.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/273 "2005-05-28T20:26:36Z")

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And I won’t be niggardly in my apologies if I lose.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/274 "2005-05-28T20:41:57Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Is there a general consensus among all the parties following this thread that the rule of **Polerius** be implemented?

I would support it as a GD rule, not as an overall SDMB rule.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/275 "2005-05-28T20:48:21Z")

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I have to be off line for a bit, but I will check back later regarding the “No calling other posters names that begin with T because it might confuse **RedFury** ” ruling. 😃

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/276 "2005-05-28T20:54:03Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> And I contend that “DNFTTwit” is nothing but a lame attempt to sideskirt the rules.

**Shodan** , I have to say that I too took this comment as a velied accusation of trolling, about on a par with talk of goats and bridges – not blatantly violating the rule, but too damned close to the line.

I’m no mod, certainly, but I do try not to be one of the Offenderati about stuff like this, so take my comment for whatever worth you find in it.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/277 "2005-05-28T21:06:11Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> And I contend that “DNFTTwit” is nothing but a lame attempt to sideskirt the rules.

I rule 100% in favor of Shodan. Saying “do not feed the twit” is not an accusation of trolling, any more than saying IANABanana is an accusation of being a lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/278 "2005-05-28T21:07:29Z")

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Incidentally, that second “accusation” should be a “denial”.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/279 "2005-05-28T21:21:56Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I rule 100% in favor of Shodan. Saying “do not feed the twit” is not an accusation of trolling, any more than saying IANABanana is an accusation of being a lawyer.

Fair enough. But I still disagree. In you example, you’ve changed the last letter of the acronym to fit your meaning.

My contention remains that using the DNFTT acronyn as is, and then adding “wit” at the end, is at the very least disingenous.

To wit:

[DNFTT](http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=DNFTT) = well known acronym.

[DNFTTwit](http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=DNFTTwit)= Made-up bullshit to disguise intent.

In any event, **Shodan** will be glad to hear that I am on my way to the optician. As per Moderator’s ruling, I was wrong and I offer him my apologies – under protest.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/280 "2005-05-28T21:22:15Z")

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dude, you’re a moderator now. You can edit out those fuck ups to make yourself look smart…

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