# Manhattan: wake up call or whiny bitch? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439 "2005-05-25T15:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/141 "2005-05-26T15:26:24Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Yes, I find it surprising that people think this board leans to the left, or that there is a majority of liberals. > > From the UK point of view, the Republicans are right-wing, with the fundamentalists on the extreme right. The Democrats are in the centre. > We take extensive gun control and a National Health service for granted. Religion has no role in our political life. Damn. If you folks think Democrats are centrists, I’d hate to think what your concept of left-wing is. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/142 "2005-05-26T15:27:09Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Or in words that are complete exceptions such as weird. People say English is the hardest language for a non-native speaker to get a handle on. I believe it. I thought Navajo was the hardest language to learn. English isn’t supposed to be that bad, spelling excepted. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/143 "2005-05-26T15:30:23Z")
Owlstretchingtime left? Oh No! Who will I get to parrot the Daily Mail editorials, outright lies, and invitations for fistfights now? as for Manhattan, nevermind magnets, it’s only a matter of time before a Manhattan realdoll is available for all those who can’t get by without feeling the need to give him a virtual rimming. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/144 "2005-05-26T15:33:33Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] 1. Repeat after me, “I before E except after C or when sounding like A as in neighbor or weigh.”…QUOTE] Such a small joke to be murdered so extravagantly. (And wouldn’t it be the case that “niether” would be the correct spelling if your rule is correct? It’s not “after C” nor is it a long-A sound.) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/145 "2005-05-26T15:33:50Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > I thought Navajo was the hardest language to learn. English isn’t supposed to be that bad, spelling excepted. > > Daniel I’ll readily alter my statement to only apply to spelling. Now, who will bring up Chinese? ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/146 "2005-05-26T15:40:30Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I’ll readily alter my statement to only apply to spelling. Now, who will bring up Chinese? I’ll see you Chinese and raise you… Sign language! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/147 "2005-05-26T15:54:10Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] > [@dropzone](#): > > (And wouldn’t it be the case that “niether” would be the correct spelling if your rule is correct? It’s not “after C” nor is it a long-A sound.) Christ Almighty, I was SUPPORTING your spelling decision, bold as it may have seemed, by citing a RULE that ACTUALLY RHYMES, so you know it MUST be true, yet you feel a need to ATTACK me, even accusing me of MURDER? Okay, I take back what I said earlier about these guys not going after me because I’m not as big a commie as them. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways, Comrade. Off to the re-education camp for me! ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/148 "2005-05-26T15:55:13Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > A-1, B-2, C-3,…T-20, U-21…What word rhymes with “U”? Oh–YOU! So that board belongs to you, but I only use it as an example of how the political flavor of a board can cause me to avoid the parts that include discussions that are political or can be politicized. and how I find it especially awkward when I’m friends with the people with whom I would be disagreeing. Nobody wants to think their friends hold the same views as people one considers morons; it reflects poorly on the friends and the person who chose them as friends. I got the “U” reference originally but the rest didn’t follow. You were saying in the prior post that my board has a surplus of conservative posters? I disagree; I believe that my place is in fact very evenly balanced, very close to about 50/50. And aside from that there are 2 conservative and 2 liberal admins; if I had to rank my Mods I’d call them 2 conservative, 2 liberal, and 2 middle. I guess compared to the SDMB and related places my place is “conservative”, not on an absolute scale. But off-board things like that shouldn’t be discussed on this place any further. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/149 "2005-05-26T15:57:40Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Damn. If you folks think Democrats are centrists, I’d hate to think what your concept of left-wing is. This, from the person who thinks Bill Clinton is a far left wing liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/150 "2005-05-26T15:58:46Z")
I call your Sign Language (which sign language, though?), since AFAIK there’s no written sign language that’s an actual language. And I’ll throw Arabic into the spelling mix–although I don’t speak it, its spelling-to-pronunciation rules sound insane to me. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/151 "2005-05-26T16:00:49Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Any of you other children got something? Anything? Everyone else is abiding by the OP’s request not to allow you to hijack this thread any further. But you’re such a attention whore that you can’t let it go. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/152 "2005-05-26T16:50:08Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Damn. If you folks think Democrats are centrists, I’d hate to think what your concept of left-wing is. Yes, yes you would. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/153 "2005-05-26T16:53:16Z")
> [@Una Persson](#): > > But off-board things like that shouldn’t be discussed on this place any further. Which was why I tried to be just a scosh non-literal. But I agree about the mix. I just prefer to avoid ALL disagreements when I’m just hanging out and of my “just hanging out” boards it wasn’t just your board that I stopped hanging out at during the election season. Yours was merely used as an example. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/154 "2005-05-26T16:55:50Z")
> [@Una Persson](#): > > Because working to pollute threads on a single, already heavily-slanted-against-Bush internet message Board is going to change things - right. If you and others like you are at all representative of the anti-Republican sentiment of the nation, Republicans are going to coast into office in 2008. Good luck with all that. We learned the hard way that playing by the rules is apparently something only patsies do. Screaming, fear mongering and bullying seem to be quite effective…and we also learned it can never start too early. Pleased to see my little rattle of sabres has already hit a nerve! It works!! Now I am looking forward to the next three and a half years! I should be a pro at pissing off Republicans by then, and will wear that badge with honor! BTW, I got to meet **Manhattan** at a Las Vegas Dopefest, and he is a great guy to hang around with. And just because he is politically challenged and jingo is his name, doesn’t mean we still can’t drink a beer together and agree to disagree. I recall **AirmanDoors** once took a little well deserved break during the election. He is somebody else whose opinion I really value, no matter how misguided I think it is. You know that when he responds you get a fair answer to a fair question. **AirmanDoors** at least came back. I would miss him more than any other Doper when it comes to reading opposing viewpoints! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/155 "2005-05-26T17:14:58Z")
**Lord Ashtar** : It would help your own image a great deal more to admit you’ve been talking out your ass this entire time, and gleefully assisting in the hijack that the OP himself began. But you don’t have the spine, do you, kid? He made it clear right in the OP where he intended this thread to go. At the time he had second thoughts, the honorable thing to do would have been to request that this one be closed, and to start another saying what he did mean. He did do the latter, and it was hilarious as hell. But no OP has the privilege of hijacking even his own thread, especially under the guise of some claim to standards superior to what he himself demonstrated in the OP. Got it now? Now, do you want to complain to **Bricker** about his own “hijack”, in which he demanded the response I gave to which you now complain? No, I didn’t think so. :wally: Grow the fuck up. **manhattan** couldn’t, but there’s still hope for you. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/156 "2005-05-26T17:37:25Z")
Wow, you sure tore me a new one, didn’t you? So, when you said… > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Anybody with any actual substance is invited to provide it. All we’ve seen so far is several people demonstrate their willingness to post simple-minded invective. Fight ignorance, people, don’t wallow in it, m’kay? Sheesh. …which was shortly followed up by the OP saying… > [@Hamlet](#): > > Do it somewhere else please. I don’t want this thread to become all about you, but rather about the tenor of the board and the defection of some posters and the unwillingness of many others to get involved in political discussions. …he didn’t actually mean it? If you’re really that curious about what I was refering to earlier, shoot me an email (it’s in my profile) and I’ll be happy to address it. Now’s the part where I bow out of this thread and you declare victory. Have fun with that. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/157 "2005-05-26T17:46:09Z")
Elvis, Still waiting for your response to my post #75 in this thread. I mean as long as you’re still demanding others support their claims about your actions, perhaps you could take a moment and support your claims about my opinions. Here’s a helpful link: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6195789&postcount=75](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6195789&postcount=75) ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/158 "2005-05-26T17:55:24Z")
That link didn’t work yesterday, or today ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/159 "2005-05-26T18:36:51Z")
Yer right, John. Elvis gets no pass, tho, 'cuz it ain’t all that hard to fix. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6195249&postcount=35](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6195249&postcount=35) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439/160 "2005-05-26T19:43:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > **Lord Ashtar** : It would help your own image a great deal more to admit you’ve been talking out your ass this entire time, and gleefully assisting in the hijack that the OP himself began. But you don’t have the spine, do you, kid? I wonder how anyone could ever have anything but positive things to say about you Elvis. Shocking. Simply shocking. > [@Elvisl1ves](#): > > He made it clear right in the OP where he intended this thread to go. At the time he had second thoughts, the honorable thing to do would have been to request that this one be closed, and to start another saying what he did mean. He did do the latter, and it was hilarious as hell. But no OP has the privilege of hijacking even his own thread, especially under the guise of some claim to standards superior to what he himself demonstrated in the OP. Got it now? :smack: Stupid me. I thought this thread was about Manhattan and his leaving. But it was really about Elvisl1ves. It’s always all about Elvis. How could I have forgotten. > [@Elvisl1ves](#): > > Now, do you want to complain to **Bricker** about his own “hijack”, in which he demanded the response I gave to which you now complain? No, I didn’t think so. :wally: > > Grow the fuck up. **manhattan** couldn’t, but there’s still hope for you. > Maybe. [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=318232) is the thread I started just for you. Your very own thread where you can do as you please. If you have any response to the posts made in this thread about you, please do it there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manhattan-wake-up-call-or-whiny-bitch/305439.md?page=9)